Website Design

Bowling_4_Gold

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weegie.geek wrote: »

read the whole thread.

Have done... Twice!

chunter

JamesJamz wrote: »

colinsmithphotos.co.uk - one i designed cheaply for someone, seems he's making a lot of business too

Never forget the man still on dial-up. I gave up waiting for the portfolio to load. And I'm on broadband.

A portfolio site can be done tidily and quickly by incorporating Coppermine or similar.I'm sure I've seen that wheel thing before somewhere...

Regarding the OP, I'm assuming you're using a big fancy camera and big resolutions, so I'd recommend somewhere local because you can pop in with the photos rather than burning dvds and posting them off on a regular basis.
Make sure your webman watermarks them too, so no one else can use them.

Jaffa.

Awec wrote: »

Tables should not be used for layouts.

Why not? They allow for more alignment and formatting control in the layout. It's not like there visable to the end user either.

[Deleted User]

Jaffa. wrote: »

Why not? They allow for more alignment and formatting control in the layout. It's not like there visable to the end user either.

Don't they cause mayhem with layouts and formatting on mobile devices and other devices with smaller screens?

timbim_2

Not to mention screen readers. Tables are tables, not page containers!

snarffie

Bowling_4_Gold wrote: »

:huh:

Have done... Twice!

I think you'll find the thread is also referring to the web designer's own site which is also full of errors, both grammatical and technical. If he can't get it right on his own site, then it's a poor advertisement for business.

I accept that some people are dyslexic, or may have poor language skills, but not running a spell checker over your own website is sloppy at best and pretty much unforgivable (and I am talking about the designer's site).

That's the point.

[Deleted User]

The designer really should liaise with their client on all matters of the site, especially the spelling of content, as it's an immediate indication of a substandard product. Not only is it going to reflect negatively on the customer, but also the designer is going to get a reputation for cutting corners. People will pay a premium for a fully comprehensive service, but something as simple as a spell check really shouldn't be overlooked.

As has been mentioned, there could be a reason why there are spelling mistakes and they can be approached in a sensitive manner but it could have just been someone was working late and tired.

converse

Bowling_4_Gold wrote: »

Not really... If the photograher has not been able to do his own website (which is pretty easy to do... there are several hundred builders all over T'Internet) then what is to say he understands what the red underlining means?? Ok, I would never let something this silly be put on the web, but seeing as the builder put it together quickly and designed it so the client could adapt it as time went on, I wouldn't expect the grammer and spelling to be completely accurate if the client is not so computer literate.

As a site builder myself, I don't check my clients sites for adjustments they have made for inaccurate spelling on a regular basis. For another example, if you built a swimming pool in someone's garden, you wouldn't go their every week to make sure they are putting the right chemicals in it, would you?

This is just pandering to people who are unprofessional and slapdash and I don't concur at all. If one is happy to publish their design work full of errors, then one deserves the reputation garnered. It doesn't have the odd error, it's full of errors an educated 7 year old could spot.

The swimming pool analogy is ridiculous and completely unrelated. You are talking of CMS sites, which the example is not for starters... Still anyone with a business updating CMS feeds with poor English is going to look unprofessional as always.

Oh and it's grammar not grammer... Computer literacy has nothing to do with English literacy, this is the second time this has cropped up.

I guess this weeds out the amateurs from the professionals.


For the others, tables should not technically be used in design, nowadays with CSS prevalent it shows a lack of technical ability and knowledge. Fine for a freebie or a hobbyist, not so for someone such as the OP looking for a "professional" site.

JamesJamz

Just to say, I'm not even a professional, I do it in my spare time for fun... The content of the site above is all down to the owner of the site, I have nothing to do with it, and I will not be going to his door and telling him his content is !!!!. It seems to work fine for him as he has now got quite a lot of his weekend booked for weddings/events.

As for my site, I work 9-5 on a computer 6 days a week, with only Sundays and night times off, which leaves me with little time to work on my own things, which is why my own site is NOT finished! I'm not a professional, so do not rely on it, its just something for fun that I will do in my own time.... Its not like I'm going around spamming my own website about the net saying look at me, I need the business.

I think a few people need to get off their high horse and take a chill pill.

As for tables, I know they are not web 2.0, but this is the way I was taught when learning HTML a few years ago, and am happy using them. I am getting used to using <DIV>'s and CSS.

weegie.geek

JamesJamz wrote: »

colinsmithphotos.co.uk - one i designed cheaply for someone, seems he's making a lot of business too

JamesJamz wrote: »

Its not like I'm going around spamming my own website about the net saying look at me, I need the business.

Perhaps not quite as blatantly as that, but the intention was clear.

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Ignoring the spelling and missing punctuation, and the fact that there's no link or anything at either of those two "get in touch" bits...

JamesJamz wrote: »

Just to say, I'm not even a professional, I do it in my spare time for fun...

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I'm not a professional, so do not rely on it, its just something for fun that I will do in my own time....

You "specialise", you can cater for all a client's needs, and will make 100% perfect websites. You're a website developer and designer. That's what you tell prospective clients. Then you tell us that you just do it for fun. I assume you accept monopoly money by way of payment.

It's not the place for it. The OP asked if anyone could recommend a tool for developing websites. You spammed. Tout for business here and expect to be torn to shreds.