heater for newborn

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Becles wrote:

Be careful doing that. My friend had her baby in their bed. The child is 9 years old now, and refuses to sleep in her own bed. As she's bigger now, she sleeps with her mother in the double bed, and her husband has moved into the spare room as it was too crowded in the bed!

I put mine in the cot in their own room from birth.

Also be aware of overheating. Another of my friend's children had a fit while sleeping in between parents due to overheating.

Counting_Pennies_2

Karnam wrote:

yea i really tried withthe cot thing.... what a waste of money

its just an evil cycle, as if you breast fed you know how much easier it is to do lying down at night, and then both you and baby fall asleep... i think its easier to put them down if you bottle feed, but it all depends on what you chose to do.

id rather breast feed and have her sleep in our bed for a few months (from around 4 weeks til she's weaned) than give formula and have problems with colic, constipation, and all the regular formula problems like lower iq asthama, ezchema, obesity etc. etc.

I breastfed until 7 months and my son hasn't slept in our bed once. I used to get up breastfeed, then put straight back into cot. We all slept fantastically.

Karnam

http://www.breastfeeding.com/reading_room/co_slepping.html

" Children who share sleep with their parents are actually more independent than their peers. They perform better in school, have higher self esteem, and fewer health problems. After all, who is more likely to be well-adjusted, the child who learns that his needs will be met, or the one who is left alone for long periods of time? McKenna suggests that it is confusing for a baby to receive cuddles during the day while also being taught that the same behavior is inappropriate at night.

The Commons report states that when babies are left alone to cry themselves to sleep, levels of cortisol, a stress hormone, are elevated. Commons suggests that the constant stimulation by cortisol in infancy causes physical changes in the brain. "It makes you more prone to the effects of stress, more prone to illness, including mental illness, and makes it harder to recover from illness," he concludes."

i think sleeping with your child isnt harmful at all so long as its over 4 - 6 weeks, they're dressed lightly in just a body suit or something, no sleeping bag and the tog of your duvet is quite low. but that's my own opinion.

remember guys; parenting is v individual and what works for me might not work for you.

ps im shocked that someone can say the 'love' went out of thier marriage when they shared a bed with baby. if having sex is the only form of 'love' in a relationship then its not really a relationship. again just my opinion.

Becles

Karnam wrote:

" Children who share sleep with their parents are actually more independent than their peers. They perform better in school, have higher self esteem, and fewer health problems. "

Just to throw a spanner in the works, as that made me smile!

My 9 year old (own bed from birth) is independant enough to look after himself. He gets dressed himself, can cook simple meals and has just been to France for a week on a school trip. He's above average in class, has plenty of confidence to speak in school plays, mass, etc. He's rarely ill and I can't remember the last time he was off school sick.

My friends 9 year old (co-sleeper) is very clingy. She won't leave her Mam's hand until the lines start to go in at school on a morning, and won't go to after school clubs or other people's parties etc., where she has to be left. She is getting catch up help, as she struggles with school work, has no confidence so refuses to do speaking parts, and is frequently off sick.

You're right in saying it's what works for you though, so as long as you're happy with it, that's all that matters

Woby_Tide

so a discussion on recommendations for a radiator has turned into a campaign march for the breastfeeding mafia.....hmmmm

dora37

Well to throw another spanner in the works....my 3 children (14,12,4) have ALL been bottle fed.....have ALL slept in their own rooms from between day 1 to day 3...ALL have different personalities, however eldest 2 (14 & 12) are in top sets (DD is also bright for 4), and DS2 is an acting wizard (can't call him a drama queen!)... ALL are very rarely ill.

Goes to show nobody's way is absolutely right, nobody's way is absolutely wrong...

I would say the magic formula is :

Common Sense....Gut Feeling....Structure & Routine...

dora37

Karnam wrote:

id rather breast feed and have her sleep in our bed for a few months (from around 4 weeks til she's weaned) than give formula and have problems with colic, constipation, and all the regular formula problems like lower iq asthama, ezchema, obesity etc. etc.

Just read your post - you shouldn't believe that every baby who has formula gets all these reactions!!

See my above post - 3 babies raised on formula, no colic, no constipation, no lower IQ, no asthma, no obesity - DS2 has slight excema (not through formula, but through freezing ice treatment for blisters 18 months ago).

Whilst breast feeding is undoubtly best for baby - formula is not ALWAYS the demon that comments like yours deem it to be.

I have had 14 years of raising children so take statements like yours with a pinch of salt, however it is probably not very helpful to less experienced mums.

As we all know new babies can be very stressful and should imagine most people take their decisions very seriously and believe that they are doing the best thing for baby without being judged for it.

I would NEVER put a baby in bed with me to sleep, however I would also not judge you on your decision to.

It just goes to show people can still have opposite opinions regarding those vital baby decisions, and STILL be a good mum.

Most people appreciate the great and sound advice on these threads and hopefully feel they can ask advice or give advice freely without being shouted down.

Sorry to the OP - I'll go and shut up now!

Alleycat

I have to admit to being one of the breastfeeding brigade, but do feel the need to say, that although Karnam I think you are doing a wonderful job, you should be careful of the assumptions you have made in your second post. Yes, studies have shown a general trend in what you have stated, however it shouldn't be assumed that it will be the case with all babies.

We successfully co-slept and are still breastfeeding, with a (I think!) well adjusted, happy toddler with growing independence, however even as a breastfed baby she had colic. There is also a massive divide between attachment parenting (demand feeding, carrying, co-sleeping) and parenting such as no nurture, rigid, 'unattached parenting'. The bit inbetween, although not encompassing all that you may believe to be best is still nowhere near as damaging as the unattached parenting style. Also, although exclusive breastfeeding has been shown to lead to (generally) higher IQ, less illnesses etc, I would be careful in stating that they are the "all the regular formula problems).

At the end of the day, we are all mums together and we should support each other in the decisions that we make (as long as they are made in the best interest of the child's wellbeing) and being too derogatory towards non co-sleepers and formula feeders does not bring any support to your/our way of parenting.

Sorry, stepping off of soap box now!!!

P.S. Just to say though on the opposite side I do get cross when co-sleeping is so readily bashed as being a terrible thing to do. As long as practised safely and not just as a quick fix (it can be though) it is a wonderful way to go!

bigup7

i have just bought a Delonghi HCA530FTS 3kw Convector Heater for our expecting baby and received it today from ( http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0000C6XGR/qid=1142878749/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/026-1364258-9042064)

it seems ok, but gives off a slight burning smell when i turn it on, is this because it is new?

and i know its a bit late to ask but are convector heaters safe to use for newborn rooms? (i can always send back for a refund!)

cheers

Becles

It might just be dust on the element and it will burn off with use.

I've got an electric fire with a metal grill over the elements. It's impossible to clean without dismantling the whole fire, so I never use it as the dust burning off the element makes me cough!