Attaching a piece of timber......

alanshave

Want to put a 2m piece of thin timber above my window in the living room to then be able to affix a venetian blind, rather than putting it straight into plaster.

There are similar pieces of timber in all my other rooms but not in the living room and I can't see any nails/small pins where it has been attached.

From this I'm guessing they used a UniBond type super strength glue. If I try to do the same will it work - not sure how strong this stuff is? Secondly if I put it on top of paint will it just fall down and pull the paint with it?

Thanks for any help in advance.

leveller2911

As your looking to put up a Venetian type blind I would screw a batten up using at least 50mm screws (4x50) and red rawl plugs and a 5.5 mm masonry drill bit.Alternatively use brown rawl plugs and a 7mm masonry drill bit.

I would steer clear of using just Gripfill,No nails etc as you will be pulling down on a cord to operate the blind....

If you do choose gripfill, then spread on the back of the batten put in place and put a few nails in just to temporay hold it in place until the glue goes off....But personally I would use proper fixings

olias

alanshave wrote: »

Want to put a 2m piece of thin timber above my window in the living room to then be able to affix a venetian blind, rather than putting it straight into plaster.

There are similar pieces of timber in all my other rooms but not in the living room and I can't see any nails/small pins where it has been attached.

From this I'm guessing they used a UniBond type super strength glue. If I try to do the same will it work - not sure how strong this stuff is? Secondly if I put it on top of paint will it just fall down and pull the paint with it?

Thanks for any help in advance.

Is there any reason why you are putting the blind on the outside of the window reveal. Most are put inside the reveal and screwed directly into the window frame or plaster next to it. It makes for a neater appearance.

As for the timber you refer to, the other ones in your house will all have been screwed, If the screws aren't evident it's because the screws will have been countersunk and filled/painted over. Glue will not be strong enough.

Olias

Pretani

alanshave wrote: »

There are similar pieces of timber in all my other rooms but not in the living room and I can't see any nails/small pins where it has been attached.

I congraulate you in keeping your living room similar.:T

alanshave wrote: »

From this I'm guessing they used a UniBond type super strength glue. If I try to do the same will it work - not sure how strong this stuff is? Secondly if I put it on top of paint will it just fall down and pull the paint with it?

You ask the right questions Alan. I would fix it using rawplugs because this is the method i know will last, and I'll fill in the holes afterwards with pollyfill, however you might be able to stick it permantely with more modern products. If so, think instant stick glues, ones that will set within 5-10 mins. Anything else is usless.

It's either the rawplug method, or a quick 5 min bonding solution.

both would take 5 mins but with the quick bonding solution you wouldn't need to fill the hole.

alanshave

olias wrote: »

Is there any reason why you are putting the blind on the outside of the window reveal. Most are put inside the reveal and screwed directly into the window frame or plaster next to it. It makes for a neater appearance.

As for the timber you refer to, the other ones in your house will all have been screwed, If the screws aren't evident it's because the screws will have been countersunk and filled/painted over. Glue will not be strong enough.

Olias

Had them made to measure to hang outside the window frame, just personal preference.

andrew-b

I'd drill a test pilot hole in the location you'd drill to attach the brackets direct to the wall to see whether you actually need a batten at all (hammer action on) If you can't drill it then a SDS drill will stand a better chance. Failing that attach the batten with screws either end so that that the batten goes beyond the ends of the lintel, or use no more nails (or similar) and remember not to swing from the pull cord (in normal use i'm sure it would be fine)!

Andy

brig001

There could be a steel lintel above the window and these will need a "normal" drill instead of a masonry/SDS. You can still put a rawl plug through the plasterboard and the steel.