The greenest car is the one you already own!

Mark300zx

It seems the environmental dogma has spread, the gov is promising money to scrap your car!

Since creating a new car is devastating to the environment, it is estimated for a greener car to be beneficial to the world, it has to travel 200,000 miles to outweigh the environmental cost of it's creation!

oldagetraveller

Hooray! Someone else who hasn't been "brainwashed" by the eco nazis!
I have a 50 year old Morris Minor and it's impact on the environment has been less over those years than building a new car to replace it!

hewhoisnotintheknow

oldagetraveller wrote: »

Hooray! Someone else who hasn't been "brainwashed" by the eco nazis!
I have a 50 year old Morris Minor and it's impact on the environment has been less over those years than building a new car to replace it!

yup i tell this too the mongs at work who drive prius's

Parisien

Yeah........all the propaganda.................horrific...........50% of all the energy used in the life of a car is used to MAKE it....................it lasts 10 yrs on average...............so cars over that age are the true green cars actually........

flang

Old school V8 Mustang here I come!

MrMuttley

Heheh this might be true in general including my 1992 MR2 but for my old Fiesta XR2 that was definately not the case. The fuel consumtion was as you expect 12 to 30 MPG depending on how you drove it. The oil consumtion was what stuffed things up. needed to add around 2 liters of oil for every tank of fuel.

Looked like some old diesil bus starting up on a cold morning with black smoke everywhere. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

vikingaero

The greenest car may be the one you already own but there are other reasons for considering a new car purchase: comfort, safety, fuel economy, growing family, reliability etc.

There's no point having a "green" older car if it breaks down every day.

Inactive

vikingaero wrote: »

There's no point having a "green" older car if it breaks down every day.

My ten year old Honda has never broken down, unlike my next door neighbours Renault that is not yet a year old and has been in for repairs on 4 occasions so far... 3 times on a tow truck.:eek:

big_gay_kirk

My 25 year old cortina has never broken down in the eight years I've had it.... does 42 mpg on a trip (good old 2 litre pinto!) has been described by many as very comfy, is incredibly practical for a family (5 seats and enough luggage space for 5 as well... the joy of the estate car) and costs 45 quid a year for fully comp insurance... it gets greener every day, and as for safety..... I doubt its any less safe than most four or five year old cars, in that in a head on collision at 70 with a 42 tonne artic neither mine nor the five yera old would survive.... over my period of ownership its cost (not including tax, insurance and petrol) totals about 700 quid.. including purchase... that's less than 100 quid a year.... not bad, eh....

real1314

Mark300zx wrote: »

It seems the environmental dogma has spread, the gov is promising money to scrap your car!

Since creating a new car is devastating to the environment, it is estimated for a greener car to be beneficial to the world, it has to travel 200,000 miles to outweigh the environmental cost of it's creation!

You got a link to substantiate that claim? Just wondering like?

darich

big_gay_kirk wrote: »

.... I doubt its any less safe than most four or five year old cars, in that in a head on collision at 70 with a 42 tonne artic neither mine nor the five yera old would survive....

In the type of crash you describe you're probably right.
But since most crashes aren't head on at 70mph with a 42t artic then you're wrong. I'd much rather be in a 4-5 year old car in a minor shunt from any direction than a 25 year old vehicel of any description, unless i'm in the artic of course!

Your car would almost definitely fare worse than most modern cars in a side on impact up to 30mph, and in a rear ender whether you rear end another car or you are rear ended by someone else.

On the OP's post - I've often wondered how much environmental damage is done erecting wind turbines and how long they take to repay simply what they've caused before they start to "make a profit"