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Observer - worse case scenarios

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  • StevieJ
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    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • dervish
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    amcluesent wrote: »
    Plenty of punches being pulled there. They could just as well add -


    3) Social unrest. The Mohammedan population is growing at 10 times the rate of indigenous British people. FACT: Islam is a personality cult that at heart is based on 'convert or kill'. Thousands of 'British' Pakistanis have been trained in the badlands of the North-West Frontier.



    I predict something worse than a riot!

    This is the one that frightens a lot of people most, simply becuase AFTER the recession is over this problem will NOT go away.... :(
  • sabretoothtigger
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    Britain can feed itself, it might not be nice food but no one is going to starve imo even if the euro fails, etc
  • mewbie_2
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    Can I add another worst case scenario? BNP start to gain electoral seats as disenfranchised white working / middle classes see no response from traditional parties.

    Cameron/Brown/Clegg ought to stop playing pointless politics and start thinking of ways to address some of the electorates fears and problems.

    btw I am not a BNP supporter.
  • StevieJ
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    mewbie wrote: »
    Can I add another worst case scenario? BNP start to gain electoral seats as disenfranchised white working / middle classes see no response from traditional parties.

    Cameron/Brown/Clegg ought to stop playing pointless politics and start thinking of ways to address some of the electorates fears and problems.

    btw I am not a BNP supporter
    .

    Don't tell fibs :D
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • Well, here you have two people - amcluesent and dervish - who don't actually know any Muslims and are thus speaking out of their backsides.

    Islam's relationship with other religions and the so-called West is far more complex and interesting that you guys believe. And there are plenty of Christian fundies as mad as any Islamic fundamentalist. As many people are aware, in the US there are plenty of people who think that not accepting Jesus as your Lord and Saviour is a worse crime than murder.

    This is from a description of a new book published by Pluto Press, Resistance: The Essence of the Islamist Revolution by former special adviser to the EU High Representative Javier Solana, Alastair Crooke, who spent his career at the heart of conflicts around the world and is now running a think-tank in the Middle East.
    This book traces the essence of the Islamist Revolution from its origins in Egypt, through Najf, Lebanon, Iran and the Iranian Revolution to today. Alastair Crooke presents a compelling account of the ideas and energy which are mobilising the Islamic world.The story of the emerging Islamist Revolution is largely one of an Islamic response to western thinking based around individualism and personal relationships with the divine, juxtaposed to the Islamist demand to place human values above politics and self-interest. Crooke argues that the West faces a mass mobilisation against the US-led Western project. The roots of this conflict are described in terms of religious themes that extend back over 500 years. They represent clashing systems of thinking and values. Islamists have a vision for the future of their own societies which would entail radical change from Western norms. Resistance is presented as the means to force Western behaviour to change and to expose the essential differences between the two modes of thinking.This is a rigourous account that traces the threads of revolution of various movements, including the influence of 'political Shi'ism' and the Iranian Revolution and its impact on Hezbollah and Hamas.

    The West can learn a lot from Islam.
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  • dervish
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    Well, here you have two people - amcluesent and dervish - who don't actually know any Muslims and are thus speaking out of their backsides.




    The West can learn a lot from Islam.

    :rolleyes:

    You have that completely BACKWARDS!!
  • dervish
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    mewbie wrote: »
    Can I add another worst case scenario? BNP start to gain electoral seats as disenfranchised white working / middle classes see no response from traditional parties.

    Cameron/Brown/Clegg ought to stop playing pointless politics and start thinking of ways to address some of the electorates fears and problems.

    btw I am not a BNP supporter.

    Whether you agree with them or not the BNP have hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of tacit supporters, many of whom are coloured themselves.

    They get support becuase they 'appear' to be the only recognisable party that has a tough stance on immigration.

    Labour and the Liberals can condemn BNP supporters all they like but until they begin to understand why people vote for them they fear alienating huge swathes of the British electorate,
  • tomterm8
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    Reaper wrote: »
    The board doom mongers should head out and get a copy of today's Observer - you'll love it. There is a 2 page spread on how bad things might get.

    There's articles on:
    * Stock market falling another 50%
    * 4 million unemployed
    * 40% more falls on house prices
    * Effect of a US - China protectionist trade war
    * Failure of the Euro

    It found all but one online - it's probably there too somewhere.

    They're not very imaginative, are they, in Latvia they have 25% unemployment, and they would be celebrating if they'd only lost 80% on their house price.

    Oh, yeah, and violent assults against the romany people are starting to skyrocket.
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  • StevieJ
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    dervish wrote: »
    Whether you agree with them or not the BNP have hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of tacit supporters, many of whom are coloured themselves.
    ,

    :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
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