Small Claims against car thief?

HO87

Hey, Happychappy

Don't be so prickly. The plain fact of the matter is that the police are ineffective at street level. Its not the bobby on the ground's fault and in my pretty extensive experience most of them are dedicated and want to do a good job. Its just they are prevented from doing so and after a relatively short period they become jaded and disllusioned. Whether its the bobby's fault or not the fact remains that they are still ineffective.

The fault lies with government (and that includes the previous lot) and an "officer corps" (heavily promoted and encouraged by the liberal elite) that sees itself as some sort of emerging social arbiter destined to bring comfort and reassurance to the community. This coupled with the scooping up of every shiny and apparently new idea means that there are specialist units for just about everything (all busying themselves with ensuring their continued existance) and very few generalists. That, as a consequence, the streets have essentially been abandonned to the marauding hordes of chav and chavette is really no surprise.

Btw - I didn't get this off "a mate down the pub", nor off the wall in the bog at the bus station. A clue may lie in the choice of avatar.

Happychappy

HO87 wrote: »

Hey, Happychappy

Don't be so prickly. The plain fact of the matter is that the police are ineffective at street level. Its not the bobby on the ground's fault and in my pretty extensive experience most of them are dedicated and want to do a good job. Its just they are prevented from doing so and after a relatively short period they become jaded and disllusioned. Whether its the bobby's fault or not the fact remains that they are still ineffective.

The fault lies with government (and that includes the previous lot) and an "officer corps" (heavily promoted and encouraged by the liberal elite) that sees itself as some sort of emerging social arbiter destined to bring comfort and reassurance to the community. This coupled with the scooping up of every shiny and apparently new idea means that there are specialist units for just about everything (all busying themselves with ensuring their continued existance) and very few generalists. That, as a consequence, the streets have essentially been abandonned to the marauding hordes of chav and chavette is really no surprise.

Btw - I didn't get this off "a mate down the pub", nor off the wall in the bog at the bus station. A clue may lie in the choice of avatar.

I totally agree with everything your saying, it's just idiots like the one above want it both ways, they are the first to rant when they get done for speeding, claiming you should be out catching criminals, and then when criminals get caught and let off or ridiculous sentences, the same character blames the police and comes up with the same old I pay your wages.

There are by far too many "Gucci squads" in the job, and not enough front line 24/7, and likwise yes it is a case of lions led by lambs, more now unfortunately the lambs are getting fluffier with more imported?

mikey72

Is happychappy a copper?

goldspanners

Happychappy wrote: »

I totally agree with everything your saying, it's just idiots like the one above want it both ways, they are the first to rant when they get done for speeding, claiming you should be out catching criminals, and then when criminals get caught and let off or ridiculous sentences, the same character blames the police and comes up with the same old I pay your wages.

its a fact though, the general public do pay your wages.
and i have been caught speeding twice,the first time was ott,but the second time i held my hands up,i deserved to be caught. done the crime paid the fine. so please dont tar everyone with the same brush. you dont know me so dont generalise.

pompeyrich

Happychappy wrote: »

I totally agree with everything your saying, it's just idiots like the one above want it both ways, they are the first to rant when they get done for speeding, claiming you should be out catching criminals, and then when criminals get caught and let off or ridiculous sentences, the same character blames the police and comes up with the same old I pay your wages.

There are by far too many "Gucci squads" in the job, and not enough front line 24/7, and likwise yes it is a case of lions led by lambs, more now unfortunately the lambs are getting fluffier with more imported?

"Idiots like the above" which probably make up 90% of the population that only encounter the Police through either being a victim of crime, or, being a driver. Never enough time/resources to investigate "petty crime" such as car crime, vandalism or burglary, I put petty in inverted commas because to the victim this is far from petty. Always enough to man a speed trap or ANPR situation. Surely the top knobs in the force can see they are alienating themselves from "normal" law abiding members of the public.

goldspanners

pompeyrich wrote: »

"Idiots like the above" which probably make up 90% of the population that only encounter the Police through either being a victim of crime, or, being a driver. Never enough time/resources to investigate "petty crime" such as car crime, vandalism or burglary, I put petty in inverted commas because to the victim this is far from petty. Always enough to man a speed trap or ANPR situation. Surely the top knobs in the force can see they are alienating themselves from "normal" law abiding members of the public.

thank you, my point exactly,but what do we know ehh?

Brooker_Dave

goldspanners wrote: »

its a fact though, the general public do pay your wages.
and i have been caught speeding twice,the first time was ott,but the second time i held my hands up,i deserved to be caught. done the crime paid the fine. so please dont tar everyone with the same brush. you dont know me so dont generalise.

Why get your hands dirty catching proper criminals when you could sit in an ANPR/"Safety" Camera van on a bypass somewhere?

The police in this country are far too lazy.

Mathew

From reading the OP it seems that the Police got him in end for this 'petty' crime so good on em. What the court choose to do with them is down to them and no reflection on the Police, did you get any compo from the court OP? I understood that anyone convicted now over and above specific comp has to pay a victim surcharge for victims in general ie..you?
No doubt if any was awarded it would effect the any civil claim, which would appear to be unlikely from the above.

Although some appear to see threads that have the slightest thing to do with a Police an opportunity to knock them, I personally give them the thumbs up having had good experiences as a victim of crime. Sure they could do better but couldn;t we all!

iolanthe07

I was burgled in January. Larder window smashed, jewellery, lap-top and Omega Seamaster watch taken, place left like a tip. The police were bloody marvellous; they spent a lot of time with us, offered support and found the scumbag who did it. The fact that he only got 26 months (with 11 other offences to take into consideration!) was not their fault. I can't speak highly enough of them.

swstevewil

My brother in law had his car pinched and written off a while. Similar scenario to OP as in thief was caught for another crime.
As he was a scumbag with no insurance he was paid out by the missing insurance bureau (MIB).
Would this be possible in your case. I think his insurance company sorted this for him.
I think MIB pay out then they get money back from thief at whatever rate they pay.