Public sector monster needs to be tamed

donaldtramp

well, if their entire strategy consists of paying one person £12,000 a year to drool whilst holding an apple in front of some kids, then yes, it is £12,000 down the drain (although the idiot with the apple will just have to be paid £12,000 by a different part of government if they were unemployed anyway). hopefully they are doing somewhat more than paying an imbecile to do nothing.

anyway, it makes no difference to you or i what some council in scotland decides to do with the council tax it raises anyway. if it matters that much, let the locals rise up against their council and pitch-fork the lot of them.

I absolutely agree. This is our Nanny state going crazy. Why do we NEED this amount of intervention into our lives? Sick to the back teeth of it.
If you don't know fruit is healthy and you eat deep fried everything, you deserve what you get. It is YOUR choice!
Never mind, eat deep fried everything, we'll pick up the tab for your medical needs and no doubt give you a cheque because you are "unfit for work" to quote one of the other threads.

Georgie4

Or alternatively if people eat deep fried everything then they will die early and then not reach pension age so you don't have to worry about your taxes paying them

Old_Slaphead

Talk about nanny state - I've just found out that, at work, we have people come in from the NHS, New Leaf, to help employees try & give up smoking.

Whatever happened to good old will power? (and why didn't his wife get it together with Gary Puckett?)

Suppose it won't be long before we have someone in from NHS to counsel the lardies.

ninky_2

Old_Slaphead wrote: »

Talk about nanny state - I've just found out that, at work, we have people come in from the NHS, New Leaf, to help employees try & give up smoking.

Whatever happened to good old will power? (and why didn't his wife get it together with Gary Puckett?)

Suppose it won't be long before we have someone in from NHS to counsel the lardies.

well good old will power doesn't seem that effective in many cases given by the number of sad puffers i see outside offices round me.

i actually think preventative 'medicine' programmes are a brilliant idea. of course, it's hard to see the benefits because we won't know exactly how many lung cancers or strokes or heart attacks would have happened otherwise.

donaldtramp

Aw diddums...
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article5963352.ece

Big freeze starts to hit public sector pay

Official figures to show first signs of deflation

Jill Sherman, Whitehall Editor

More than one million nurses, midwives and other NHS staff face losing a promised pay rise in the first sign of a salary squeeze for public sector workers, The Times has learnt.
Pay freezes, or at best minimal rises, are also expected for thousands of senior civil servants, and government ministers, as Britain prepares for its first period of deflation for 50 years.
With many companies in the private sector imposing pay freezes and some even pay cuts, Alistair Darling is under pressure to set an example by restraining Whitehall and ministerial pay. A pay freeze from the top would set the tone for the imminent round of pay negotiations for other public servants, including one million local government workers, 450,000 middle-ranking and junior civil servants, and prison officers.
NHS sources said that pay for doctors, who have enjoyed relatively high rises in recent years, would be squeezed and suggested that employers were ready to renege on the third year of a pay deal for nurses and midwives worth 2.2 per cent as hospital trusts struggled to pay bills.

Not before time, but when does the cull begin??;)
This will be the first of many cuts.
How typical, Unison still pressing for wage increases!!! I've got a sneaky feeling they are going to be very disappointed in the coming months.....

I look forward to seeing the result and recommendations of the study in 3 weeks time, lets hope it goes far enough.....

tomstickland

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23666142-details/London%27s+10+billion+pensions+timebomb/article.do

A PENSION funding shortfall of £10billion threatens local government services in London, the Evening Standard reveals today.

Intoodeep

The arguments however pathetic and unbalanced in whichever direction do not alter the fact that if you study the figures, the level of Public Sector pensions are unsustainable.
On Panorama last night they claimed that £1 in every £5 going towards Public Sector spending is for Pensions...........and its not going to decrease is it.

bigheadxx

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=1585715

Laughing in our faces!!

donaldtramp

Yup, and waving our hard earned tax in our faces.

RobertoMoir

bigheadxx wrote: »

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.html?t=1585715

Laughing in our faces!!

I'm not sure why you think that.

I see them as young and naive and in some degree asking for an explanation of why what is happening now is so bad, which a lot of younger people honestly don't seem to understand. I thought the comments about their jobs were more along the lines of acknowledging how lucky they were to have secure jobs as much as anything.

Of course, I could be wrong in what I'm reading in their post. My point is that you could be wrong too.