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How to take DFW forward?

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  • RAS
    RAS Posts: 35,694 Forumite
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    I am not too sure about this; I tend to respond to a lot of newbie requestS and do not often read diaries or challenges.

    BUT

    Diaries inspire newbies. Challenges are for those who have got their feet under the table.

    What would be very useful is a sub-forum (even if the posts migrated to and from) for any post that had no response in the previous 12 hours if the post count was less than a specified number (5???). That would highlight new threads that needed attention and stop newbies falling off the radar.
    If you've have not made a mistake, you've made nothing
  • elantan
    elantan Posts: 21,022 Forumite
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    can i ask how many times does this have to come it ...it seems to rear it's head every few months or so and really gets annoying
  • jenjade
    jenjade Posts: 8,418 Forumite
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    I like it how it is i came looking for a challage to do then made some friends and learning load for all the other post just leave it!
    :j Proud mum to Jade age 10 years and Baby Ellie born Christmas Day:eek: with a broke heart :( Proven to be a little fighter and battling on with her heart condition :j
  • ZTD
    ZTD Posts: 24,327 Forumite
    Hmmm - I have a slightly different take on challenges.

    I probably now mainly come on for the challenge threads, but then I also try to offer people help and advice as I see posts pop up. If the challenges were in a sub-board then I wouldn't see so many of the other posts. Challenges are also where lots of people are doing some genuinely amazing work and I think they can be as inspirational as the diaries (which I confess I rarely read) and are really accessible to newbies to help them start to chip away at their debts. BUT all that I have just written can be reversed to be pro diaries for people that like diaries more.

    Perhaps we're not asking the right question. Perhaps we need a poll: "What do you come on here for?"

    Diaries (other peoples)
    Diary (yours)
    Challenges
    Answering Newbie Questions

    etc...
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  • elantan
    elantan Posts: 21,022 Forumite
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    now that is a good idea...as always z
  • ZTD
    ZTD Posts: 24,327 Forumite
    elantan wrote: »
    can i ask how many times does this have to come it ...it seems to rear it's head every few months or so and really gets annoying

    When it fails. When it is unambiguously seen to fail (which given a state of denial could be quite some time). And when it fails so badly the pieces no longer quite fit back together again.

    Then it will no longer be mentioned.

    Much.

    Hell daylight savings time is still mentioned for changing despite there being a trial between 68 and 71 and it was rejected... http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/commons/1970/may/12/british-standard-time
    "Follow the money!" - Deepthroat (AKA William Mark Felt Sr - Associate Director of the FBI)
    "We were born and raised in a summer haze." Adele 'Someone like you.'
    "Blowing your mind, 'cause you know what you'll find, when you're looking for things in the sky."
    OMD 'Julia's Song'
  • taxi73
    taxi73 Posts: 20,815 Forumite
    I think ZTDs poll options are a good idea.
    This question of putting diaries into a sub section comes up over and over again along with polls and always with the same results.
    Personally I think it's a bad idea to move the diaries but it looks like MSE have already made the deciscion.
    A lot of newbies like to join in the diaries before posting a thread of their own and can also see that there are ways out of debt.
    I find a lot of the newbie questions are about DMPs ..I think you need a sub board for DMPs.
    Most of the people with Diaries are paying their debts in full often in what seems like impossible curcumstances so actually show newbies what can be achieved with determination and help from friends on MSE.
    I feel newbies may miss out on 2 scores if the diaries are moved:
    (1)Newbies may not be confident to venture to a sub board
    (2)Newbies may not get answered if all the diary posters are in a sub forum.
  • Edinburghlass_2
    Edinburghlass_2 Posts: 32,680 Forumite
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    Not a definate decision as yet, Martin has posted to say he may trial a sub-board for a month but if you want to be heard please use the official thread.
  • fermi
    fermi Posts: 40,542 Forumite
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    Not a definate decision as yet, Martin has posted to say he may trial a sub-board for a month but if you want to be heard please use the official thread.

    Yep. Please do. :)

    Link: Proposed Forum Changes...
    MSE_Martin wrote: »
    Some of these changes (e.g. a DFW diaries sub-board) tend to be split into two vehement camps. My tempation on these things will be to try it for a month - and then remerge it if it isn't working.

    I put this up more for the Poll than discussion, so if you want Martin and the site team to read your thoughts please pop over to the official thread.
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  • MrsAudus2b
    MrsAudus2b Posts: 493 Forumite
    Although chaotic at times, I confess to liking DFW as it is and certainly would like the diairies to remain in the main board.

    I spent a couple of weeks reading posts before plucking up the courage to post. I have been made to feel very welcome posting on various diaries and feel that a sub-forum would make them somehow inaccesible to newbies -fear of being the new girl etc. The diaries have provided the greatest support of inspriation for me, as I'm sure they have for many others.

    Just my twopence worth
    xx
    Joint debt with OH at LBM Sept 08 (excluding mortgage & student loan) - £34,069 :eek:

    Getting married 05/09/09 :love:

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