Are you preparing for economic collapse?

tiff

ukcarper wrote: »

But if it's that bad will there be any water coming out of the tap

Back when I wrote that I wasnt comtemplating the end of the world as we know it, just hard economic times for all of us. My thinking doesnt go as far as the recent posters!

HammerSmashedFace

Cleaver wrote: »

Obviously you and nearlynew will be kings of this new world. I'm imagining both of you sitting on top of a huge heap of scrapyard rubble with crowns made from tin. Although this is weird as I don't know what either of you look like. I can also see rewired silently bringing you both drinks and food. Hamish's head on a spike with people dancing round it. Everyone has slightly punky blue hair, we're all in the desert and people are driving around in weird buggies made out of scrap metal. There's a strong wind which blows dust and sand through the derelict buildings and human remains.

I'm hoping that although I disagree with you both, I regulary thank your posts, so you'll give me a job hunting down people for meat (or something like that) and you will let me live in the back of one of the scrapped cars in your [STRIKE]scrap car lot[/STRIKE] kingdom.

Great stuff:D, you and you're family will be safe mate, I have enough pasta to last many years.

Really2

HammerSmashedFace wrote: »

I have enough pasta to last many years.

Just that the water to boil it in came out of "that" sock.

nearlynew

Cleaver wrote: »

Obviously you and nearlynew will be kings of this new world. I'm imagining both of you sitting on top of a huge heap of scrapyard rubble with crowns made from tin. Although this is weird as I don't know what either of you look like. I can also see rewired silently bringing you both drinks and food. Hamish's head on a spike with people dancing round it. Everyone has slightly punky blue hair, we're all in the desert and people are driving around in weird buggies made out of scrap metal. There's a strong wind which blows dust and sand through the derelict buildings and human remains.

I'm hoping that although I disagree with you both, I regulary thank your posts, so you'll give me a job hunting down people for meat (or something like that) and you will let me live in the back of one of the scrapped cars in your [STRIKE]scrap car lot[/STRIKE] kingdom.

I realise this is an attempt at humour and thanks-gathering, but............

I notice that your vision has an uncanny resemblence to a hollywood film.

This is entirely consistent with your forming of opinions based on what is portrayed in the mainstream media and entertainment industry.

You need to start informing yourself from different sources to see a true picture of what is happening, rather than being spoonfed ready made views.



Apart from that, you're not a bad lad and I know you mean well.

StevieJ

nearlynew wrote: »

You need to start informing yourself from different sources to see a true picture of what is happening, rather than being spoonfed ready made views.


l.

You mean nutter blogs and Youtube

molerat

6. How to drink your own p*ss through a sock!

That is disgusting, what if you suffer from sweaty feet :eek:

JP45

nearlynew wrote: »

Hope for the best but plan for the worst.

That's the best anyone can do.

I agree, seems a very sensible approach.

Having said that, I'm amazed at the certainty with which some people predict the future.

Surely if there's one thing we should all have learnt by now it's just how uncertain the future is.

Take a very simple example. A year or so ago there was a lot of talk of how people were 'downgrading' their shopping as a result of the recession, opting for Aldi, Lidl and the like instead of comparatively expensive outlets such as Waitrose. And yet here we are, one year on, and Waitrose have just announced a substantial increase in sales.

I know it's a relatively trivial example, but it's surely indicative of just how difficult, nigh on impossible, it is to predict the future with any real certainty.

Harry_Powell

molerat wrote: »

That is disgusting, what if you suffer from sweaty feet :eek:

or, even worse, athlete's foot and/or verucca's! yuk!

Still, it's all extra protein to add to the 'tramp n cockroach' soup for dinner.

Cleaver

nearlynew wrote: »

This is entirely consistent with your forming of opinions based on what is portrayed in the mainstream media and entertainment industry.

You need to start informing yourself from different sources to see a true picture of what is happening, rather than being spoonfed ready made views.

Rule Number 1 from 'Conspiracy Nut / Tin Foil Hatter's Bible':

"You shall assume that absolutely no one is as well read as you, no one ever questions any source that they read and everyone else believes every single thing they read or see in the media. You are the one that knows the truth and the media / sources / articles you read are vastly superiour and are overflowing with truth compared to the sheeple's. It is your duty to point this out to them at all times, especially in a patronising and condescending way if possible. Internet forums and youtube videos are ideal ways to spread the word. Remember tin foilers: you know the truth and everyone else is stupid!"

StevieJ

JP45 wrote: »

I agree, seems a very sensible approach.

Having said that, I'm amazed at the certainty with which some people predict the future.

They are not the first

Thomas Malthus published his now famous Essay on the Principle of Population. In it, he predicted that population growth would eventually outrun food supply. This prediction was based on the idea that population, if unchecked, increases at a geometric rate, whereas the food supply could only grow at an arithmetic rate. Mathematically, any increasing geometric sequence (e.g. 1, 3, 9, 27, 81) will eventually overtake all arithmetic sequences (e.g. 10, 20, 30, 40, 50). The resulting decrease in food per person will eventually lead to subsistence-level conditions. According to Malthus, the catastrophe can only be prevented by self-restraint or vice—which for him included contraception and abortion. Malthus did not give a time frame for his catastrophe. Thus far, population growth has been essentially geometric as Malthus predicted. The Malthusian catastrophe, however, has not occurred, principally because food supply growth has also been roughly geometric, not arithmetic. Furthermore, the widespread use of contraception and abortion (Malthusian vices) have, as Malthus said they could, restrainedpopulation growth significantly. In fact currently food supply per person is several times higher than when Malthus wrote his essay.

http://www.economicexpert.com/a/Malthusian:catastrophe.html

I wonder what malthus would have made of food production improvements, GM crops would have blown his mind