Working women almost certainly caused the credit crunch

b0rker

My girlfiriend earns more than me.

If this happens then can it be me who stays at home watching daytime TV all day please?

No in fact I am sure I can find many more interesting things to do during my days at home but the plea still stands!

SGE1

ixwood wrote: »

lol. I'm not sure I sound like the bitter one.

No, not because you enjoy your job (that would be silly), preferring your job to the rest of your life is the sad part.

Of course, we should all enjoy our jobs, but we should enjoy not doing them more IMHO.

If you put the nails away and read what I posted, I have a very good, enjoyable, responsible and well paid job. I get satisfaction from doing it and I'm good at what I do. Would I quit tomorrow if I won the lottery? You bet. Would I like to retire early? Of course.

It's about working to live, not living to work.

Enough with the cliches :rolleyes:

And when did I ever say that I preferred my job to the rest of my life? You're just making stuff up now...

SGE1

mewbie wrote: »

I definitely wouldn't. Nothing to do with working women, men, whatever. I just would rather do other things given an unlimited amount of money. It slightly irritates me when lottery winners say "oh no I won't give up my cleaning job". No imagination. How about learn to play the piano, take up art, buy a large Winnebago and travel the world. Keep animals, study, watch all those films you never get around to - the list of other things to do must be endless.

Re topic. Two incomes now required, double edged sword. Not fair to blame anyone though. !!!!!! happens.

Yes but presumably you're not a cleaner. If I were a cleaner, yes, I would give up my job, because I imagine cleaning is a pretty dull job.

At the very most, I expect I'd move to part time, and probably take more holidays too. Or take time out to find an even better job. But I wouldn't give up working altogether.

SingleSue

ixwood wrote: »

And besides, if you need work to feel useful and worth something, what happens when work ends or don't want you any more? Are you worthless? Are the millions out of work now worthless?

Unfortunately, that is how society sees them.....and I have experience of that.

All of a sudden you become brain dead (in their eyes), regardless of what you may have achieved in your working life...some even class people who claim benefits as scum, again regardless of how you ended up there.

flossy_splodge

If I read this thread correctly, it seems the assumption is, now we're in a downturn, there is too big a pool of labour to support all? And that therefore women shouldn't work?

Well IF there is too many seeking work, the situation seems to be self righting as the excessive numbers of people who have flocked here from other lands are, if what we are told is to be believed, returning whence they came, in their droves.

Then all we need is a system that makes sure we are not forced to take all comers when things turn round again.

I'm sure there ARE benefit scroungers out there but personally I'd rather 5 scroungers got away with scrounging than ONE person in need went without because the system put them off/ made it difficult to claim etc.

So what i suggest is that the benefit system is changed so that if work is available then a claimant must take it or benefits cease (after say 6 months of being allowed to look for the job of choice).

Then we would have a more 'active' labour pool to meet our own lands needs and if men OR women choose to work, or NOT, they can, because there will be availability of jobs at 'PROPER' reward levels. (No more incomers driving wages down).

The talk about some companies 'ONLY' making x £million and then blaming women for the problem is uneducated.
We can ALL choose our behaviour.

Families can choose whether it really IS a NEED or a WANT to have a bigger TV or a more expensive holiday and those for whom they wished these were the only considerations they had; ie those, men OR women who NEED to work can go about their business without being blamed for problems generated by common greed but facilitated at the highest level -Government.
Where would we all be without taxes, and greed feeds more money into the tax pot. Not women. Not men. Greed.:eek:
And anyone who has read to the end of that deserves to be the next chief executive of RBS:rotfl:

Conrad

ixwood wrote: »

And besides, if you need work to feel useful and worth something, what happens when work ends or don't want you any more? Are you worthless? Are the millions out of work now worthless?

I agree.

THe bloke who owns I think the The Sport said he lives to work. I truly think such people have only half thier brain engaged.
They don't seem to be very deep people.
Really boil down what work means against the context of all the atoms in our bodies having once resided inside stars on the other side of the Universe.
Something as petty and trivial as work is just a distraction.

I would retire and throw myself into rescuing rare wild animals before they dissapear into oblivion, I would attend talks by the likes of Richard Dawkins, establish a wildlife garden with water falls etc

Fancy wanting to shuffle papers in an office all day - how very banal, and yes that does count for even the most high status jobs

affordmylife

i totally adore my job but i would still much much rather be at home baking and walking the dog. with the odd bit of knitting thrown in.

when my husband earns enough to support us and our five kids and mortgage without me working then maybe but i dont see that happening any time soon.

pay for men is far far too low in my opinion if they cant support their family. it shouldnt be about the woman working i am stressing that im now spending my entire weekend (apart from a quick coffee break on here) doing the chores and shopping and cooking for the week.

i know im old fashioned but thats how i feel. i would rather be the little woman at home with my pinny on and hubby out to work (earning enough for his family to live on).

by the way i am 42 and have worked since leaving school at 16. never been out of work ever.

harrup

andrina_nightshade wrote: »

Wow... So, to help the economy I should drop out of uni, leave my job, and sit about the house while my father, and later my husband, support me, instead of pursuing my dream of becoming a doctor. Obviously I can make a more positive contribution to society by baking carrot cake and ironing than I ever could caring for the sick and dying.

With all due respect - if this is how you regard women raising a family i.e " sitting about the house " ....then you still have a lot to learn.

I'm I the only one thinking that those "antiquated" females who ...erm..."sit about the house" with their family do so - because they already HAVE a job? In raising their children, taking care of the microsociety - i.e. their family? Don't you think it's ironic that if one looks after OTHER peoples children and takes care of OTHER peoples houses, one is "working" but the same curiously doesn't apply to ones own kids or home. Baffling.

I don't have children and do work - but this is a walk in the park compared to my friends with a young family. To equate their work to "doing nothing" is astounding. Especially when coming from a woman!

As to whether you will make a more positive contribution to society in becoming a doctor vs. baking carrot cakes - well, that depends. Will you be a dedicated, engaged, focused doctor? Or a sloppy, dismissive, arrogant one whose main impetus for work is money and status?

If it's the latter you might want to reconsider on the carrot baking and ironing. A good carrot cake is hard to find - a sloppy part-time doctor not so much.

lynzpower

ixwood wrote: »

Are you serious? You'd rather give your precious time to someone else to make money from, than enjoy yourself and do whatever you please?

Generally I think not working, or early retirement would be the dream of most people.

I think the government conned woman into thinking they were missing out and being deprived of something, so they could rake in the extra taxes.

It's backfired now. Go and do the daily grind like the rest of us! *evil laugh*

Well I did go through a stage of over 6 months when I was too ill to work. For a while I had enough money to do what I wanted ( as I was on full pay on the sick for a few months) and I was bored out of my tiny mind. I read, surfed the internet watched films etc, did the cleaning :rolleyes:but all my mates and OH and parents etc all worked full time so what is there to do?

If I won the lottery, Id probably set up a charity or a business with it? Would I work full time? Probably.

lynzpower

With all due respect - if this is how you regard women raising a family i.e " sitting about the house " ....then you still have a lot to learn.

I'm I the only one thinking that those "antiquated" females who ...erm..."sit about the house" with their family do so - because they already HAVE a job? In raising their children, taking care of the microsociety - i.e. their family? Don't you think it's ironic that if one looks after OTHER peoples children and takes care of OTHER peoples houses, one is "working" but the same curiously doesn't apply to ones own kids or home. Baffling.

I don't have children and do work - but this is a walk in the park compared to my friends with a young family. To equate their work to "doing nothing" is astounding. Especially when coming from a woman!

Come on! I have loads of mates with kids and some of them dont work. Once their kids are at school they go off and have thier nails done, go to the gym, or go round each others houses for cakes and tea. I could do it for a few months before I went totally brain-dead. You can fill your days with housework- but what sort of life is that??!