LHA at what point does a baby count towards needing more bedrooms

hotpot1000

I am living in purgatory for last 12 mths with the house nextdoor being sold to a private landlord person.
The tenants are so noisy, esp after laying wooden floors, plus she shouts at the children all time.
We have very small 2 bed terraces, houses have 1 double bedroom and 1 single bedroom, next door to me lives a couple with 2 girls - 8?yrs old & 3 yrs old. New baby arrived december 08.
When I complained to the unhelpful landlord last year I was told the council would rehome 'her' when new baby arrives. I was also asked if 'he' is living here. I presume she -on paper is entitled to LHA
So if the council would rehome - how long would it take/when would I expect this please?
pretty please

seven-day-weekend

I'm not at all sure they would rehome her, especially if the children are all the same sex. They coild sleep in one room (large) and parent in the other.

Or if they were different sexes, then the children could have the bedrooms and the parent sleep in the living room.

She could go on the housing list, but I don't think she would be rehomed quickly, if at all; however it does vary from area to area depending upon the availability of Council housing..

hotpot1000

Hi
my neighbours not a single parent, she lives with partner so I presume they have the double bedroom,
she might be claiming as single - as I dont know why the landlord would ask is 'he' living there.
It would have to be bunk beds for the kids in the single room, I dont know the babys sex
plse dont say they wont be moving this year

jacklink

im sorry but i dont think there is anything about over crowding anymore, think generally of the country and you will think why not, there used to be laws about it pre E.U. era, also sex of the child no longer matters to a great extent regarding sharing a room.

pre E.U. a boy and girl could not share a room after the age of 7.
pre E.U. overcrowding was not permitted.

Fran

Councils vary on the ages they say children should be in separate bedrooms*, also Housing Associations too, you should check with your local council.

Edit - *but not outside the legal requirement, see Shelter link below.

Really you need to ask the woman herself, she might not even be on the Housing List, she would not necessarily have told the landlord anything. Even if she is on the list she is not actually homeless and it will depend on the areas she puts down and the area you live in.

If there are wooden floors suggesting any tenants would sound noisy and a private landlord perhaps your best option would be to ask the council to move you as they are the ones that sold the house putting you in a situation where you can't "peacefully enjoy" (or whatever phrase they use) your place.

Just noticed you posted again as I started this, if you want reassurance they will move within a year I'm sorry to say it is unlikely unless your area has a lot of council/housing association houses. While the baby is small and until the eldest child reaches the age the council (or Housing Association) says they need their own room or baby needs own room they won't have any priority. Even then it will depend how many are looking for similar accommodation and this could take years. That's why I suggested you might improve things only by moving yourself.

Fran

jacklink wrote: »

im sorry but i dont think there is anything about over crowding anymore, think generally of the country and you will think why not, there used to be laws about it pre E.U. era, also sex of the child no longer matters to a great extent regarding sharing a room.

pre E.U. a boy and girl could not share a room after the age of 7.
pre E.U. overcrowding was not permitted.

This is bullshh11t of course there are still overcrowding rules.

Chelmsford council has some information.

Shelter has information about overcrowding.

jacklink

tell me what states as over crowding?

how many are allowed in 1 large bedroomed 1 small bedroomed property these days ?

different councils seem to have different rules

Fran wrote: »

This is bullshh11t of course there are still overcrowding rules.

Chelmsford council has some information.

Shelter has information about overcrowding.

jacklink

oh i noticed in chelsmford (were ever that is) 2 bedroom property 3 people

this is council info and not private accomodation

jacklink

oh have to also say that these 'rules' are 'general' rules and do not have to be complied with (see the shelter info) - hence overcrowding not a priority

i state my case

im sorry but i dont think there is anything about over crowding anymore, think generally of the country and you will think why not, there used to be laws about it pre E.U. era, also sex of the child no longer matters to a great extent regarding sharing a room.

pre E.U. a boy and girl could not share a room after the age of 7.
pre E.U. overcrowding was not permitted.

hotpot1000

Id like to say that our street is private housing and not council, I own my house and was happy here for 13 yrs, my lovely neighbour who lived there previously, died unexpectedly and the house was sold off to a landlord who rents it out.
I got no joy off LL when i complained about the shouting, she suggested the council could deal with noise but I dont want to involve them incase I am forced to sell up, as I would have to declare a dispute as Ive asked the neighbour not to shout and she told me to !!!! off in -front of her 2 children.
There is def no chance of me asking next door when she is moving.
I'll have at look at the links and then look for similar info round here
thanks

jacklink

im really sorry but literally if you have a dispute it could take years and years to resolve - and by then laws will of changed again.

basically she has a private landlord, he isnt to bothered - he is getting the money - council may look at it but they prefer not too bother too much, they will drag it out for years, by which time there wil be a new tenant in, new tenant new query - council starts again - there arnt any short term solutions.

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