DLA decision 'NO' how to appeal??

daska

mis-post - the first time it didn't appear...

cleomolly

Thanks everyone who has been helpful. I have actually gained help from CAB and have been to see them, they have had a look at my papers and gone through a few things with me, they also said that someone could attend with me. munchings and daska - where in my posts after the one dated 26/03/09 does it say i haven't asked for help! i said i had sent a letter for re-considereration to them on my own, without any help writing it. But since recieing the decision as 'NO' again, and notice of a tribuneral i have gained advice, and why be so negetive towards someone who is trying to do all they can on their own, before deciding that they need the valuable time and help from CAB !! as far as i see it, i am able minded, able to use a pen and paper, and have a good knoweldge of my condition so why shouldn't i try to do this on my own before taking the valuable time away from someone who could need it more than me, may be someone who isn't able minded and unable to fill in these forms! boo hoo to you both!

cleomolly

daska wrote: »

Has just occured to me that it's a classic Hobson's Choice. She wants us to give her another option to choose from and we don't...

Do you feel you have to try and be funny.................that's a classic that, never heard that one before!!! your sooo funny and very helpful i must say

covlass

Hi Rebecca
The advice given really is good advice, it's not about you not having a good knowledge of your condition (which I am sure you do have) or about you not being able to do it alone. I have a very good knowledge of my daughters disabilities but "if"i had filled in the forms with some help I more than likely would not have had to go through 14months of fighting for my daughters claim. AS the DLA form cover all disabilities the questions have to worded correctly or DLA will just say no., I know I have learnt the hard way. I am sure now that you have gained the advice and help from cab that it all should be sorted for you soon. Dont worry about the tribunal I got worked up about it but it really wasnt that bad.

daska

rebecca.hobson wrote: »

WHAT A BARRELL OF LAUGHS...........just received my tribuneral papers, and I must say I'm impressed with their ignorance of anything I've written, and have made their decision using advice from someone who has never met me and never even asked ot assess me : ) this just gets better.right guys, what do i do now? how do i go through them and what am i looking for?Thanks

rebecca.hobson wrote: »

Thanks everyone who has been helpful. I have actually gained help from CAB and have been to see them, they have had a look at my papers and gone through a few things with me, they also said that someone could attend with me. munchings and daska - where in my posts after the one dated 26/03/09 does it say i haven't asked for help! i said i had sent a letter for re-considereration to them on my own, without any help writing it. But since recieing the decision as 'NO' again, and notice of a tribuneral i have gained advice, and why be so negetive towards someone who is trying to do all they can on their own, before deciding that they need the valuable time and help from CAB !! as far as i see it, i am able minded, able to use a pen and paper, and have a good knoweldge of my condition so why shouldn't i try to do this on my own before taking the valuable time away from someone who could need it more than me, may be someone who isn't able minded and unable to fill in these forms! boo hoo to you both!

We're not trying to be negative but you failed in your application, you then actively ignored and rejected our advice and you failed in your attempt to change their decision. There was no implication in what you wrote that you had any intention of getting help rather than trying to do it all yourself - in spite of all the advice given on here telling you to get help. actually it sounded exactly as if you are asking us to give you advice contrary to that we had already given.

I'm very glad you went to the CAB and I hope you get the award you deserve.

munchings-n-crunchings

Hello Rebecca,

There is no need to be derogatory to either daska or myself.

There is no question regarding your ability to write your own letters, or understand your own condition.

But what you do need to understand is how your condition fits into the DWP criteria for DLA.
You need to understand all these elements, and apply them to yourself, and then put you case.
http://www.benefitsnow.co.uk/dmakers/default.asp

It's not easy, and it's time consuming. We all think there are better things to be done with out time, but it's a learning process.
There are no short cuts. If you want to handle as much of this yourself, read up on the process, make notes and research.

You clearly state 'decided to go it alone' which is why folks reiterated get advice.
You say you know a 'paper hearing is the best option', yet you want to know what other options are available. It makes no sense.

I hope you get the outcome you are looking for,

Munchie

cleomolly

munchings-n-crunchings wrote: »

Hello Rebecca,

There is no need to be derogatory to either daska or myself.

There is no question regarding your ability to write your own letters, or understand your own condition.

But what you do need to understand is how your condition fits into the DWP criteria for DLA.
You need to understand all these elements, and apply them to yourself, and then put you case.
http://www.benefitsnow.co.uk/dmakers/default.asp

It's not easy, and it's time consuming. We all think there are better things to be done with out time, but it's a learning process.
There are no short cuts. If you want to handle as much of this yourself, read up on the process, make notes and research.

You clearly state 'decided to go it alone' which is why folks reiterated get advice.
You say you know a 'paper hearing is the best option', yet you want to know what other options are available. It makes no sense.

I hope you get the outcome you are looking for,

Munchie

I don't know where I said a paper hearing is better ?I was simply asking what the other options were available, people come on here for advice, assuming that they do not what the process is! as I myself said in my last post I was just wondering what the other options were, that was a question to anyone who knew the answer, it was not me saying I don't want an oral hearing, i want a paper one! I wouldn't have asked what the other options were if I knew! I did write my application myself and i did write a letter of appeal myself, so what! it will only effect me it taking longer, as i said i would rather give it a go myself then go striaght for help, yes i have failed in my application, but when you are ill and beleive you are entitled ot this benefit you just assume that you should be accepted, and when not, may be if i appeal It'll be looked at by someone else and they will make the right decision, but in my case it hasn't worked, it's not that I'm ignoring all your advicem it was gratefully received, and i did post to say thank you for everyones kind advice, but when i ask a question i.e what is the other option other than a oral hearing, thats not an indication to foke that i am not getting advice, it's mearly something i forgot to ask the CAB advisor.

cleomolly

Daska - as you've highlighted my post asking what i do when going through the forms, why? Me preparing by going through my papers and highlighting anything i disagree with, is surely a good thing..........well the CAB advisor said it was a good thing and was impressed with my preperation before going ot see them, I was asking for advice about what i need ot look for on the forms, nowhere in that post does it say I'm going to go through a tribuneral alone!

munchings-n-crunchings

My mistake,

I meant to quote you saying 'Oral is hearing is best'.
So then if you know the best option, it makes not sense to explore options that are not in your best interest.
Everyone here is just trying to give you the best advice they can, me included.
Finding you links that will help with your understanding of the process, all takes time and research, given freely.
Munchie

daska

rebecca.hobson wrote: »

Daska - as you've highlighted my post asking what i do when going through the forms, why?

Because you're acting surprised that we didn't guess that you had been to the CAB, got loads of advice and weren't planning to do this on your own again?

rebecca.hobson wrote: »

Me preparing by going through my papers and highlighting anything i disagree with, is surely a good thing..........well the CAB advisor said it was a good thing and was impressed with my preperation before going ot see them, I was asking for advice about what i need ot look for on the forms, nowhere in that post does it say I'm going to go through a tribuneral alone!

Yes, it is a good idea, but didn't the CAB adviser explain what to look out for? Did they not offer help to go through the forms? Did you refuse that offer of help as well?

The CAB was specifially set up to help people like you (and us), and to a certain extent their funding depends on people like you using their services - they can't get funding if they can't prove a need! So I would urge you to use the CABs expertise and get the job done properly. No-ones saying you're stupid or you don't know your condition, but you are not an expert at DLA claims.

I have the experience of having applied twice and succeeded twice (first time in each instance) with a condition that is notorious for being difficult to get an award for - ME aka 'Yuppie Flue'. I achieved this by taking and using the advice I was given rather than constantly questioning it and trying to do it my own way. BTW I'm not thick either, I have an IQ of 167 and was a IT manager before I fell ill, but I know I couldn't have done the application and got it through first time on my own.