Best paint?

mrbadexample

:hello:

My mate wants to know what the best paint is please. To be used on wood / metal. Gloss, brilliant white. Needs to be durable, not go yellow etc., so looking for the usual cost v quality balance.

Advice gratefully received.

Cheers,

MBE

iwanttosave_2

I just recently painted all our wood (last week in fact) and used the cheap wilkos own, it did the job great and went on good, and even covereed the horrid salmon pink woodwork all over the house (previous occupents taste in decor was less than desirable) I have used this one before in the old house and was still holding up a year later, chip free and still white

RedOnRed

iwanttosave wrote:

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Sorry, slightly OT.

I couldn't help noticing that you've made 10.199 postings since joining in Aug 2005!

That's more then 50 postings a day. Is that a record?

iwanttosave_2

could be, I do make more than that though LOL

Some of the are helpful honest :rotfl:

RedOnRed

Surely you should get a framed picture of you holding a bottle of champagne whilst shaking hands with Martin or something?

intel

mrbadexample wrote:

:hello:

My mate wants to know what the best paint is please. To be used on wood / metal. Gloss, brilliant white. Needs to be durable, not go yellow etc., so looking for the usual cost v quality balance.

Advice gratefully received.

Cheers,

MBE

Well I would deffo NOT get a cheapo paint as its a false economy, for white emulsion I would get Dulux Trade Supermatt as it has excellent coverage properties, and also Dulux or Crown Gloss as they are a much of a much
and for wood you also want a good hard finishing paint if outside and if
inside the same counts, dont bother with a Once paint as they always lose
depth after a while and the finish will look flat..

If painting wood I would put on a 2coats of primer 2coats of Underwood
and then 2-3 coats of gloss (Primer for new wood) if old wood usually
1 coat of undercaot and 1-2gloss depending if the old clour is the same
as the new, if a darker colour 2 coats of Undercoat as Undercoat is slightly
cheaper... It really depends on how good a finish you are really after
but I would stay clear of B and Q crap, Dont forget that anyone can
walk into a Johnstones Store and get Trade Priced paint for Cash.

http://www.johnstones-paints.co.uk/site/johnstones.asp They do their
own branded paint that isnt to bad but not great, I would go for Dulux
or Crown personally as the finish and thickness is far superior.


http://www.dulux.co.uk/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/HomepageView?storeId=10752&catalogId=10051&langId=-1

http://www.crownpaint.co.uk/

http://www.paintingdecoratingassociation.co.uk/

http://www.paintquality.co.uk/ (A must see site)

mrbadexample

RedOnRed wrote:

Surely you should get a framed picture of you holding a bottle of champagne whilst shaking hands with Martin or something?

Oi! Gerroff me thread! :rotfl:

Steve_xx

It's the pigmentation loading of the paint that is the key, ie the higher the pigment load, the better the coverability. Many people swear by Dulux, but I remember reading a report, some years ago now, which concluded that Dulux was ok, but that B&Q's own brand emulsion was both better and far cheaper.

Which? periodically do reports on the best paints to buy. Perhaps you could pop to the local library and have a look at the Which? reports. They usually have them there.

gm_xone

Steve_xx wrote:

...but I remember reading a report, some years ago now, which concluded that Dulux was ok, but that B&Q's own brand emulsion was both better and far cheaper.

I vaguely remember seeing something which came to that conclusion.
What surprises me is that B&Q don't actually manufacture their paint but instead, I believe, source it from various manufacturers within the UK and Europe usually based on the cheapest available price.

Personally, I don't rate the B&Q stuff.
Dulux Trade (not retail - which has the 'Dulux Dog' on the can) and Johnstone's Trade paints seem far superior.

intel

Just remember that emulsion is thixotropic and when I saw that I though
how strange they stirred the Dulux paint quite vigorously but they didnt
stir the B and Q sh*te thus the Dulux went on thinner.

Thixotropic basically means that the paint will have a lower viscosity when stirred.

Steve_xx

gm_xone wrote:

I vaguely remember seeing something which came to that conclusion.
What surprises me is that B&Q don't actually manufacture their paint but instead, I believe, source it from various manufacturers within the UK and Europe usually based on the cheapest available price.

Personally, I don't rate the B&Q stuff.
Dulux Trade (not retail - which has the 'Dulux Dog' on the can) and Johnstone's Trade paints seem far superior.

Yes I take your point re the two Dulux types. I think that the trade version has higher pigment load so that less coats are required.

They test it by painting a black and white chequered board. Then they see how many coats it takes in order to get a uniform finish.