Brown Writes in the Guardian

Wookster

Generali wrote: »

Unfortunately, the 'takin' our jobs and our wimmin' argument is a seductive one when times are hard.

Just like blame it on the bankers!

zedyy

"people before bankers"? just like"british jobs for british workers" eh??

Generali

zedyy wrote: »

"people before bankers"? just like"british jobs for british workers" eh??

Precisely. Bankers aren't people? It's bad logic and isn't strong rhetoric either.

vivatifosi

Thanks for highlighting the post by the chemist Gen. This is a subject dear to our hearts in the viva house.

My DH studied under a Nobel Laureate at one of the closed chemistry departments. He then studied for his PhD at another closed department, with the effect that brilliant, ground-breaking facilities and people have been lost to the British Education system. You've got to wonder what's happening when you have had Laureates handing their degrees back in disgust and the centre of DNA discovery in the UK closing.

How the hell are we to lead the way and be a centre of comparative advantage in cutting edge science when first, we don't engender an interest in science at school and second, we close facilities that are expensive, but are equally at the forefront of scientific advance in this country?

Generali

vivatifosi wrote: »

Thanks for highlighting the post by the chemist Gen. My DH studied under a Nobel Laureate at one of the closed chemistry departments. He then studied for his PhD at another closed department, with the effect that brilliant, ground-breaking facilities and people have been lost to the British Education system. You've got to wonder what's happening when you have had Laureates handing their degrees back in disgust and the centre of DNA discovery in the UK closing.

How the hell are we to lead the way and be a centre of comparative advantage in cutting edge science when first, we don't engender an interest in science at school and second, we close facilities that are expensive, but are equally at the forefront of scientific advance in this country?

Science is difficult and expensive. Better to have a dozen mediocre graduates in Sociology than one good physicist seems to be the current thrust of policy.

As the old London (Jewish?) saying has it, "Never mind the quality, feel the width".

vivatifosi

Or maybe they are putting all the money into Media Studies. This government really needs more spin doctors after all...

Generali

vivatifosi wrote: »

Or maybe they are putting all the money into Media Studies. This government really needs more spin doctors after all...

...to re-educate counter revolutionaries possibly???

vivatifosi

Well, I was starting with a lower target - like putting lots of positive comments on the Guardian website - they are clearly lacking there. But hey, counter revolutionary re-education, why not?

SamIAm_3-2

Generali wrote: »

The comments below are interesting, especially when you consider that the Guardian is a left leaning paper

Blimey. I'm no Gordon fan but I am surprised by the number and tone of the responses - they are almost unanimously anti-Gordon. If this is in any way representative he's in trouble for the next election.

maninthestreet

Nu Labour are heading for melt-down at the next election, and they know it.
Don't be surprised if they use any sign on civil unrest to invoke the powers they have given themselves to make up new legislation 'on the hoof' to show the electorate who is in charge.