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  • ad44downey
    ad44downey Posts: 2,246 Forumite
    Check out the share prices. They don't usually lie. When the share prices drops 80 or 90% you can be fairly sure something is seriously wrong
    Krusty & Phil Madoff, 1990 - 2007:
    "Buy now because house prices only ever go UP, UP, UP."
  • Short selling?

    Skittish investors?

    Hedge funds?

    Any of this factor in your reasons for share price fluctuations?

    Please
    don't forget the psychology of the markets; no it's not lying, but share prices don't necessarily reflect the truth. For example, the share price of the company I work for has fallen 70 percent in the last months, yet we are the second biggest consultancy in the world, with $16 billion on our order books, high profit margins, and over $750 milllion in cash. Why? Because the markets are spooked.
    Doing my best as a contrarian investor...property, banking...let's see how it goes ;)
  • Buddy195
    Buddy195 Posts: 144 Forumite
    Short selling?

    Skittish investors?

    Hedge funds?

    Any of this factor in your reasons for share price fluctuations?

    Please don't forget the psychology of the markets; no it's not lying, but share prices don't necessarily reflect the truth. For example, the share price of the company I work for has fallen 70 percent in the last months, yet we are the second biggest consultancy in the world, with $16 billion on our order books, high profit margins, and over $750 milllion in cash. Why? Because the markets are spooked.

    Who do you work for? Sounds like a good bet for shares.

    All the banks shares will go down today as they did in US. Not majorly worried about my punt on RBS or Lloyds, have bought into 3 other sectors in shares that are under valued. Ark theraputicals I bought in and sold a few days later made over 10% after fees, now moved that cash into other shares where there should be good short term growth.
    I wouldn't say anyone should put all their eggs in one basket as there is money to be made, lots of places to find out where to buy.
  • Doing my best as a contrarian investor...property, banking...let's see how it goes ;)
  • melbury
    melbury Posts: 13,251 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper I've been Money Tipped!
    Well I am in for the long haul, hopefully in a few years time they will be worth loads and paying a good dividend:T
    Stopped smoking 27/12/2007, but could start again at any time :eek:

  • melbury
    melbury Posts: 13,251 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper I've been Money Tipped!


    Would they be a good buy DF?
    Perhaps I shouldn't ask that, not sure.
    Stopped smoking 27/12/2007, but could start again at any time :eek:

  • isofa
    isofa Posts: 6,091 Forumite
    Pity LTSB "wanted" to rescue HBOS in the first place, now HBOS would be in dire straits and the government would have had to nationalise, but now it's part of LTSB, I'd say it's less likely. The government certainly won't let the group collapse.

    Perhaps Brown will nationalise just the HBOS part LOL ;)
  • nrsql
    nrsql Posts: 1,919 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    LTSB have wanted to take HBOS for a long time but wouldn't have been allowed to (anti-competition). The government decided to override those concerns and allow it to go through so LTSB (and everyone else) were in a rush to get it done before the situation changed.

    Note that the 10 bill is a lot due to applying LTSB accounting procedures rather than HBOS's. Possibly another case of Enron/PFI/Olympic... valuations.
  • melbury wrote: »
    Would they be a good buy DF?
    Perhaps I shouldn't ask that, not sure.

    Pretty solid to be honest, and quite a war chest of cash for acquisitions which they'll be making during the slowdown. Just note that they're listed on the Dow so watch the dollar (although rumour has it the dollar will be somewhat weaker soon...we'll see). Note, no dividend either.

    They certainly know what they're doing, and with the infrastructure stimulus in the states, there'll be a good few juicy contracts going their way as well as some here.

    Ultimately, a relatively slow and steady burner, but no real reason why $100 per share (the price shown is in $, not cents don't forget) can't be reached again in 2-3 years or so. I had to sell my stock when I left and haven't taken up the company option again since I was lured back, as I'm in the mood for speculation now that I've got my financial stock nest egg (I hope :rotfl:). I may grab a few while they're down in the $30 - $40 region.

    You could do a damn site worse, they had a record year last year, but just remain mindful of the currency fluctuations as an added issue to consider ;)

    More info here: http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=117895&p=irol-IRHome
    Doing my best as a contrarian investor...property, banking...let's see how it goes ;)
  • Buddy195
    Buddy195 Posts: 144 Forumite
    Pretty solid to be honest, and quite a war chest of cash for acquisitions which they'll be making during the slowdown. Just note that they're listed on the Dow so watch the dollar (although rumour has it the dollar will be somewhat weaker soon...we'll see). Note, no dividend either.

    They certainly know what they're doing, and with the infrastructure stimulus in the states, there'll be a good few juicy contracts going their way as well as some here.

    Ultimately, a relatively slow and steady burner, but no real reason why $100 per share (the price shown is in $, not cents don't forget) can't be reached again in 2-3 years or so. I had to sell my stock when I left and haven't taken up the company option again since I was lured back, as I'm in the mood for speculation now that I've got my financial stock nest egg (I hope :rotfl:). I may grab a few while they're down in the $30 - $40 region.

    You could do a damn site worse, they had a record year last year, but just remain mindful of the currency fluctuations as an added issue to consider ;)

    More info here: http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoenix.zhtml?c=117895&p=irol-IRHome

    Nice to see a decent bounce on RBS & Lloyds shares today :D hope its the first of many....
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