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Advice needed for my son, please.

My son, 32, is likely to be dismissed from his job this friday. He has gone from a top sales person to the bottom of the ladder (re his performance). He has been suffering with depression for some time and it has badly effected his job.
He left his partner before christmas and moved back home with his 9 year old son (a situation we are very happy with).
My question is, will he be entitled to financial help? He receives child benefit and Working Tax Credit. If he is dismissed, I presume he will lose his WTC. Will he be entitled to CTC in place of the WTC? Can he claim Income Support?

If he resigns before being dismissed*, will he still be able to claim JSA?

My wife and I are both retired and have only a small pension income, so we are very willing to subsidise him but not for very long, I'm afraid.I know he has not lost his job yet, I just want to be prepared to help him 'from the off'.

He has been on the council housing register for over 4 years.

Thanks for reading and Any advice will be most welcome.







* He is thinking of resigning as it will look better on his CV. Is he correct to do this?
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  • Norman-B
    Norman-B Posts: 1,638 Forumite
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    tibtib, thank you so much for your reply! Your advice pretty much confirms my thinking on the situation. Will he be able to claim CTC?
    Thank you.
  • sammyjammy
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    Your son will be able to claim Income Support or JSA as his son is under the age of 12, he will be entitled to money whether he is sacked or leaves voluntarily but if he can bear to hold out the chances of him being sanctioned (losing a percentage of the money for up to 26 wks) is less (pretty much non existant) if they sack him due to poor perofrmance.

    He would get £60.50 for himself and then child tax credits for his son.

    It maybe best for him if he goes onto Income Support to give himself some breathing space and then later transfer back onto JSA to get help with getting back to work.

    Best of luck,

    Sam
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  • Mojisola
    Mojisola Posts: 35,574 Forumite
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    Norman-B wrote: »
    He has gone from a top sales person to the bottom of the ladder (re his performance). He has been suffering with depression for some time and it has badly effected his job.

    This is a suggestion - hope one of the experts will comment - is his depression bad enough for him take time off through sickness? I don't know how it would compare with claiming the other benefits. It seems unfair that he is going to be sacked because he hasn't been well enough to maintain his high sales levels.
  • lolababy
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    Im pretty sure that your sons case will come under the disability discrimination act. Its worth looking into Have a look at the shaw trust web site.
  • lolababy wrote: »
    Im pretty sure that your sons case will come under the disability discrimination act. Its worth looking into Have a look at the shaw trust web site.
    Would it though if the employer was unaware of any disability?
  • Norman-B
    Norman-B Posts: 1,638 Forumite
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    Thank you all for the replies. I will come back later today as I'm just off to take the G-Son for a bike ride.

    Thanks again
  • Be Careful Your Intentions For Your Son Are What Any Loving Parents Would Do How Ever Because He Lives With You You Will End Up Paying Council Tax And This Could Hinder Any Monies Your Getting So Phone Income Support And Ask For A Better Off Calculation Explain Everything They Are Very Helpful As For Your Son He Will Get Income Sup And Carry On Receiving Ctc Hope This Helps
  • Pee
    Pee Posts: 3,826 Forumite
    The trouble is that most companies do think (unfairly) that stress related problems mean someone is unsuitable for certain types of work, which I am sure is not the case, as your son was previously very good at his job. Also, i think that if it ever came up again, any company he would want to work for could see that the particular circumstances, relationship break up, would hopefully not reoccur.
    Sometimes it can be better to jump before you are pushed however that usually means finding a new job before resigning, which is likely to be hard at the moment esp. in a hurry.
  • cte1111
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    It might well be worth your son going off sick, he would then be entitled to Statutory Sick Pay (and maybe some employer's sick pay too depending on his employer's policy. As long as his GP certifies him as too sick to work, then this would be OK.

    Ultimately they may well be able to dismiss him, if his illness makes him unable to work, but long term depression counts as a disability so DDA also comes in. If he feels better after some time off sick, he can ask his employer to make adaptations to his job to accommodate his disability. They may or may not be able to do this, but they have to have a good go, or risk being guilty of disability discrimination.

    I would suggest this as a course of action rather than resigning / claiming benefits, as it might well be that after maybe some treatment (perhaps medication / counselling could help him), he could well be able to return to his job and his previous level of performance. If not, then if he is still unwell, then he might be able to claim some illness based benefits, rather than having to launch straight into another job (if there are any around), and possibly ending up with even worse health issues.
  • Norman-B
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    Reply to post No. 8
    My wife receives her state pension and I receive a small private pension and a small sum from savings (thats a laugh!)
    We do not receive any other state benefit. Sorry but I did not understand your point re council tax. We do not get any relief on that.
    Thanks for your reply.


    Reply to post No. 9
    My lad is worried that if he resigns that he will be without any sort of income. We have assured him that we will help as much as we can. If he is dismissed, he worries how that will look on his CV and future job seeking.
    Thanks for your reply.


    Reply to post No. 10
    He was signed off sick by his GP for 4 weeks, during his 'problem' period. His GP wanted to sign him off for 3 months but my son, fearing for his job, refused and insisted on going to work (which we now know, was a big mistake). He has been on paid leave and he has a hearing at work on Fri' to discuss his situation.

    What disturbs me, his company knew he was having 'partner' problems and that he was receiving counselling, yet offered him nothing in support! Why was it that he went from top of the ladder to bottom and yet nobody there asked him what they could do to help him!

    Thankfully, he is getting better and getting back on his feet. I only hope that come Friday, he is not kicked in the crutch and not given a second chance.
    Thanks for your reply.
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