general election. When. It can`t come soon enough

Wookster

Sadly I think Rochdale is correct - Crash is too scared to call an election before mid spring next year - he is hoping against all odds that there will be "green shoots."

I'm not a bit fan of David Cameron - he is a man of no substance, and every time he opens his mouth he sounds angry. Furthermore the Tories are a bit too hawkish on world issues (like Israel) for my liking but Crash's handling of the economy over the last 10 years and this crisis is just incompetent. He will bankrupt us all.

The Tories are awful but at least they will be more fiscally disciplined than Labour.

Edit: I also think power makes one arrogant - Labour have become arrogant with power - just look at the likes of Crash talking "we are doing everything in our power to keep transport links open in the current weather...", David Milliband is another awful one, as is Ed Balls - they never give straight answers. Its not healthy for one party to stay in power for too long and its time for Labour to go.

Jalap

Aren't the banks to blame for the crash?

Which party does the average banker vote for?

Wookster

Jalap wrote: »

Aren't the banks to blame for the crash?

Which party does the average banker vote for?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/jan/26/road-ruin-recession-individuals-economy

Woby_Tide

Jalap wrote: »

Aren't the banks to blame for the crash?

Which party does the average banker vote for?

Given the average banker will probably be fairly low down the food chain and earning a very modest wage I'd imagine they will be closer to working class and lower middle classes than the image of the banker is normally associated with. But at a guess they would have been Labour voters on 'average'

itsnever2lateisit?

Does it really matter? IMHO the country [STRIKE]runs[/STRIKE]stumbles along in spite of Government not because of it

torontoboy45

woodbine wrote: »

you should keep in mind that camoron needs a lead in the polls of 8 or 9% to have a majority of one,now even if he starts out at the beginning of an election campaign with 12%or so lead theres no way it will end up anywhere near that on the day(when ever that is,but prob may2010),my bet is that we will see a labour minority govt next year,they will then pull in a few elder lib dems into the cabinet in exchange for a change to PR,then a new election in 2012/13 with possibly almost a 3 way split between libs lab and cons,the downside being that depending on the version of PR that we end up with we may have to stomach 1 or 2 bnp mps

good call. the electorate (rapidly depleting) is fluid, as opposed to 30yrs ago.
a hung parl. could be on the cards.

irrespective, we could be looking at 5yrs of weak government.

the max. term of gov. is actually 5 yrs 6 months, under certain circs. (I think).

tomstickland

Jalap wrote: »

What's so great about a Conservative government? What is David Cameron going to do that's positive?

Bin ID cards. That's worth it.

dervish

Heyman wrote: »

The election results of the last few decades haven't exactly supported the cause either.

I think you'll find that the criteria that I used is probably more sophisticated than a lot of people who will make their way to the polls next year.

Really?

I think most people vote according to their beliefs.

Or they have grown up and absorbed some of the attitudes and beliefs of their family and vote accordingly.

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torontoboy45 wrote: »

good call. the electorate (rapidly depleting) is fluid, as opposed to 30yrs ago.
a hung parl. could be on the cards.

irrespective, we could be looking at 5yrs of weak government.

the max. term of gov. is actually 5 yrs 6 months, under certain circs. (I think).

Minority govt or even coalition govt doesnt necessarily equal weak govt,hopefully it would mean the return to consensus politics and parliamentary govt as opposed to govt by a handful of ministers and half a dozen civil servants and govt by a thousand leaks

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tomstickland wrote: »

Bin ID cards. That's worth it.

but even thats a negative,as in we the conservatives arent going to do x y or z,the problem the tories have is that save for 3 or 4 people their front bench are unknown to most people,and camoron is seen as weak and indecisive,and is disliked by many of the rank and file tory members