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Tenant - Please help.

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  • tbs624
    tbs624 Posts: 10,816 Forumite
    Clutton - this is so not like you - you seem to have got a bee in your bonnet about this OP. (She may have amended her first post but the original is still captured within other people's.) If she's making you cross perhaps it's best just to leave it, rather than nudging away at someone whose stress levels seem pretty high at the moment?

    Isn't Venice on the agenda for you this weekend anyway?;)
  • clutton_2
    clutton_2 Posts: 11,149 Forumite
    tbs24 - u r right - i have let her get to me - but we do only have one side of this story

    for me she typifies so many demanding and unreasonable tenants

    when my landlord takes me to a nearby hotel on a decent A road by tractor tomorrow i will hopefully get to venice !!

    i am now renting and have a fantastic landlord - we do exist
  • socrates
    socrates Posts: 2,889 Forumite
    “There’s no point debating anything online. You might as well hurl shoes in the air to knock clouds from the sky. The internet’s perfect for all manner of things, but productive discussion ain’t one of them. It provides scant room for debate and infinite opportunities for fruitless point scoring: the heady combination of perceived anonymity, gestated responses, random heckling and a notional ‘live audience’ quickly conspire to create a ‘perfect storm’ or perpetual bickering.

    Stumble in, take umbrage with someone, trade a few blows, and within about two or three exchanges the subject itself goes out the window. Suddenly you’re simply arguing about arguing. Eventually one side gets bored, comes to its senses, or dies, and the row fizzles out: just another needless belch in the swirling online guffstorm.

    But not for long, because online quarrelling is also addictive in precisely the same way Tetris is addictive. It appeals to the ‘lab rat’ part of your brain; the annoying, irrepressible part that adores repetitive pointlessness and would gleefully make you pop bubblewrap till Doomsday if it ever got its way. An unfortunate few, hooked on the futile thrill of online debate, devote their lives to its cause. They roam the internet, actively seeking out viewpoints they disagree with, or squat on message boards, whining, needling, sneering, over-analysing each new proclamation – joylessly fiddling, like unhappy gorillas doomed to pick lice from one another’s fur for all eternity.”
  • poppysarah
    poppysarah Posts: 11,522 Forumite
    socrates wrote: »
    because online quarrelling is also addictive ...


    No it's not.
    :)
  • Well it is a bit frustrating I must say to see the other posts were closed - i spent a lot of time writing advice on there - as did many others! - just to see a new one pop up with the same questions on and the same advice given out?!?!?!

    I dont honestly see the point - yes OP you are in a difficult situation, a lot of people are.

    Wait and see what your landlord does in the next few days, but ultimately she doesnt have to do a lot seen as you have signed and have paid deposit etc.

    Get those keys and get round there and get cleaning!!!! And dont make the same mistake next time........what else is there to honestly say?!!?!?!?!?
  • tbs624
    tbs624 Posts: 10,816 Forumite
    From another thread.....
    JonnyBravo wrote: »
    ...socratres who has been hugely self-amused by his understanding on the nature of internet forums
    :rolleyes:
    A week has passed by and socrates is still sitting there in his slippers chuckling to himself over a 2 and a half year old Guardian article, obviously having read or heard nothing else quite so amusing since the article was first espied by him on one of the other boards………………….:whistle:
  • socrates
    socrates Posts: 2,889 Forumite
    Yep - you got it - and the over the top reactions in this thread prove it!
  • tbs624 wrote: »

    So a T asking you about something which you are legally obliged to provided - the EPC- would be seen by you as one who "kicked up a fuss"? Are you one of those LLs who'd invoke the old S21 at the earliest opportunity when a T raised any query during their tenancy ?
    As a Tenant, what exactly would YOU do with the EPC info ? Insist the property is double glazed soonest ? Or maybe demand the most energy efficient condensing boiler be fitted ? My point is that an EPC is a useless bit of paper to a Tenant.

    Would you (as a Tenant) also demand a "toilet flush performance certificate" if the government passed a law requiring it ?

    Do you actually tell the T about your offer of a 200 quid "bung" from the start Rainmaker, or just keep quiet and hope the T does too?
    What do you think (tongue in cheek) ?


    What's to stop the T trousering your "donation" and still reporting you to the Trading Standards people later on?;)
    A section 21 notice.
    ..........
  • clutton_2
    clutton_2 Posts: 11,149 Forumite
    the crazy thing about these ridiculous certs is that as a LL you dont have to DO anything to your property to make it any warmer - insanity
  • Lavendyr
    Lavendyr Posts: 2,610 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    RainMaker wrote: »
    ..........

    Totally o/t, but as a tenant who did recently have an EPC from the landlord (our rental is agency managed and we seem to be two lucky tenants with an excellent managing agency and excellent landlords to boot), I have to say that it doesn't seem to achieve anything and I personally think it a waste of our LL's money by the government.

    The agency sent someone round (not sure what their credentials were) to inspect the property and provide advice on any areas where energy performance could be improved. He noted a number of things (for instance, boiler is old & could be replaced with a combi boiler, loft could have better insulation), but none of it is likely to be acted upon, and to be honest we are not particularly bothered (if we were, we would have raised it with the LL ourselves). We took the house knowing that the boiler was old and knowing that insulation wasn't perfect. An EPC is not going to change that.

    I also knew about the EPC legislation and was therefore unsurprised to hear from the agency to arrange the inspection. But had they not done so, it is definitely not something we would have chased them about. Something like a gas certificate, of course we would chase for, as it is something which pertains to our safety. But we live in this house, we know what is and isn't energy-efficient about it, and we know that we can talk to our landlord & letting agency if we have any concerns. So for us, the EPC was pretty irrelevant.

    The landlord has text today stating: LL has just text to say she's trying to sort problems and i will have to just wait till she has time to fix them. I move in 17th so hope she finds time before then. I wish I'd just moved in 5th when I paid the firstmonth rent and desposit 4th, i was just trying to be helpful by giving her time to sort them out.


    And back on topic - clutton, I am in agreement with you, and I am a tenant ;) To the OP, I do hope you get things sorted, but I would really advise that you stay away from texting the landlord and that you put any future requests in writing.

    I followed your first thread, I didn't find the landlord's text rude (direct, yes, but not rude) and I think you need to be patient & allow her to carry out the works required. You have said she has until the 17th, and she has said she will do the work before then. Give her a few days to sort things out, as she has already said she will, and stay calm. Fretting won't help your baby, but getting on with your landlord and making sure your tenancy goes smoothly, will (especially as your landlord could conceivably serve notice to expire at the end of the first six months leaving you having to house-hunt when 8 months pregnant - I would advise staying on the right side of her). Best of luck & take care. :)
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