Any unemployed Grads here?

bunny999

snowqueen555 wrote: »

Um, I'm not snobby, its not snobby to expect to be able to find a job after a degree, I'm not asking for it to be handed on a plate.. Really i don't know what this attitude is, there is a big difference between expecting a grad job, and just looking for any job. I cannt find ONE JOB at all, I'm entitled to whinge about the economy, but i'm not resting o my laurel, am applying to at least 6 jobs a day, mainly retail and minimum wage, I have given up on any semblance of office professional

People who do HE expect to have better job prospects, indeed that is what the government tells us as well, its hardly being snobby expecting this after 3 years of education and an average of £12000 debt.

yesterday phoned up to volunteer, will probably do a whole day a week and see how it goes from there

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This wouldn't be so bad if i didn't feel so much expectations from my peers and the general public expecting me to be successful

You've been conned.

snowqueen555

LOL Yes

P.S

I have researched HE Scholarships, there are actually a lot of scholarships, but these are all researched based ones and only at certain universities. The application procedure is extremely difficult, long and complicated, but I guess if you are determined enough you could get in. I however don't want to spend another 4 years studying full time!

From what I read its pretty good, tuition AND living expenses paid.

But what will happen then? Come out of education nearly 30yrs old and probably still not being able to find a job LOL

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JOBJOBJOB, I will pray to the employment gods every night

McGuiver

robin_banks wrote: »

Shouldn't that read;

Untrue. A friend of mine did law at Leeds met and got accepted to Oxford to do their MA- if they aren't snobby about it, I dont see why anyone else should be.

Clearly you're a clever fella with a good grasp of the English language - you certainly like to show off! And who can blame you?! However, feel I have to take exception to the old 'polytechnics versus red brick debate'.
Please forgive me if I happen to be talking to someone with extensive knowledge of the higher education system in the UK or, Lord forbid, a university vice chancellor - but you betray your apparent intellect by writing such ignorant comments. I don't mean to sound aggressive but you sound like an avid Daily Mail reader.
It's late and I don't have the inclination to explain to you why you should review your comment (but I'll bet you're a jolly good self-initiated learner), so let me take you by the hand and point you in the correct direction:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2009/feb/04/university-education

Hopefully this column should pique your interest and educate and inform you (though I doubt this is necessary). And when you've finished, you can tell any nice, interested forumites what the terms 'external validation' and 'external examination' mean.

With kind regards,

McGuiver Esq.

Sharon87

Graduate here!

I have also not found a paid job in my career yet. I don't expect to skip the bottom rung like some people on here think. It's the bottom rung jobs I can't get as there is simply too many people applying for them! Then again I knew that about the TV industry before I started, but I did expect to get a job (whether a week long, month long or longer) within about 6 months.

My advice to current students is to do as much work experience in your chosen career before you leave uni, so you have the experience. I done some experience as part of my degree, but due to my part time work and coursework it was difficult to get experience. Dont leave it until your final year to find experience, because you will be swamped with work.

I've had quite a few temporary jobs since graduating, these include, office assistant, receptionist, retail job, waitressing and some voluntary work in a Television Production Office. However since December I haven't had a single job! The job market it so difficuly right now. I had an interview for a shop job where my degree prevented me from getting it as the guy was worried I'd leave as soon as I got a TV job.

poker_face

Sharon87 wrote: »

My advice to current students is to do as much work experience in your chosen career before you leave uni, so you have the experience. I done some experience as part of my degree, but due to my part time work and coursework it was difficult to get experience. Dont leave it until your final year to find experience, because you will be swamped with work.

I've had quite a few temporary jobs since graduating, these include, office assistant, receptionist, retail job, waitressing and some voluntary work in a Television Production Office. However since December I haven't had a single job! The job market it so difficuly right now. I had an interview for a shop job where my degree prevented me from getting it as the guy was worried I'd leave as soon as I got a TV job.

Thats just it, I some sectors, (obviously not doctors and the like) experience is becoming more valuable to job seekers than qualifications. I do sound engineering which I started working for free for about a year getting experience, and now have a fair bit of work, whereas my friend went to uni to do sound tech and cant get a job anywhere.

gingerdad

sturll wrote: »

I couldn't agree more in terms of the degree studied, i mean if i ran a Law firm i would hardly be interested in employing someone with a degree in Geography. Although stats do say most graduate employers do not require a subject specific degree. Of course there are still plenty that do.

Your family do appear to have done well but i suggest that in todays world a young person with no degree would have very little hope of earning 100k. If he ever did it would be after many many years on the job.
Your sister the accountant, she may very well have taken the relevant accountancy exams be it through CIMA or ACCA and they will no doubt have taken longer than if she had done the modules at University.

Since we are on a thread about graduates and most graduates are young or under 30 then it would be naive to believe that if they did a good degree they would not have better career prospects.
I don't think i am the exception since i have many friends who are well employed and have good futures ahead of them.
Needless to say i am 27, a Lawyer in Private Equity and last year including bonuses i took home over 40k, as i said in an earlier post, by the time im 32 i would expect be taking home 60k. Ill likely be retired by the time i reach 50.
What 27 year old without a degree can say that?

(nb please don't take my comments out of context, they are merely to illustrate a point and nothing else)

I'm only in my early 30's and have stopped chasing the money but happy. but the key how relevant a degree is.

a point when i was 18 i worked in the Britsih Midland Call centre at castle donington, a job at the time which required gcses. yet over half the staff had degrees (this is 1994 ish) but most were pointless degrees.

If someone have a good degree like law etc then a degree will get a better job. what winds me up is all these people who do a degree in media suties etc and then leave uni exepcting to be on 30k per year just because they have a degree.

and the comment about would a low paid job on my cv look bad earlier in the discussion in point. clearly to me or the people i have worked for in the past and employ no. i would always employ some on from a job rather than the dole.

As a point when i was 27 i was earning about 40k to, but got sick of commuting...

GD

gingerdad

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

I don't really think that it's relevant to include earlier generations as far fewer people went to university then and a degree was required for far fewer jobs. (eg Teaching didn't require a degree until the 70s.) If your BIL is only earning 15K in a college he can't be a full time lecturer although perhaps he's heading that way? I also feel that the relatively high number of people in your family who are self employed skews the figures somewhat.

okay but my generation are in our mid 30's so does that count.

no hes doing more selling for the college than lecturering, not sure the whys and where fors.

The main point is that degrees are relevant, but not every degree entitles you to a better paid job. and some people seem to think it does.

GD

Sharon87

gingerdad wrote: »

If someone have a good degree like law etc then a degree will get a better job. what winds me up is all these people who do a degree in media suties etc and then leave uni exepcting to be on 30k per year just because they have a degree.

Why do people think that Media is a 'soft' subject? It drives me crazy, it's an academic subject people! I worked bloody hard to earn my degree and I hate people dumbing down my degree, just because it was Media! A lot of people that were on my course thought it was soft, and guess what... they failed and dropped out.

As I said, I have a Media degree and don't expect to be on 30K for many years yet. I'm just trying to get a 12K a year job at the minute!

Rant over.

robin_banks

It's a less academically challenging subject.

crescend0

Sharon87 wrote: »

Graduate here!

I have also not found a paid job in my career yet. I don't expect to skip the bottom rung like some people on here think. It's the bottom rung jobs I can't get as there is simply too many people applying for them! Then again I knew that about the TV industry before I started, but I did expect to get a job (whether a week long, month long or longer) within about 6 months.

My advice to current students is to do as much work experience in your chosen career before you leave uni, so you have the experience. I done some experience as part of my degree, but due to my part time work and coursework it was difficult to get experience. Dont leave it until your final year to find experience, because you will be swamped with work.

I've had quite a few temporary jobs since graduating, these include, office assistant, receptionist, retail job, waitressing and some voluntary work in a Television Production Office. However since December I haven't had a single job! The job market it so difficuly right now. I had an interview for a shop job where my degree prevented me from getting it as the guy was worried I'd leave as soon as I got a TV job.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIyg2a72uV4