IE8 - if at first you fail miserably...

chunter

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7852340.stm

They're having another go. I wonder if it'll be fit to tie the shoelaces of Firefox this time.

geewhiz

chunter wrote: »

I wonder if it'll be fit to tie the shoelaces of Firefox this time.

Don't see why not, all the previous versions have been !

Marty_J

"We have long advocated providing choice to customers"

...as long as that choice is Microsoft or Microsoft.

[Deleted User]

It's a very good browser and the best IE to date. It all comes down to personal preference on what features you want from a browser. Me, I prefer a simple browser with tabs which is why I stick to IE.

FreheitOverture

Marty_J wrote: »

"We have long advocated providing choice to customers"

...as long as that choice is Microsoft or Microsoft.

Exactly, didn't they get fined squillions of dollars for not providing choice and killing netscape?

M4RKM

anewhope wrote: »

It's a very good browser and the best IE to date. It all comes down to personal preference on what features you want from a browser. Me, I prefer a simple browser with tabs which is why I stick to IE.

i prefer a browser that is standards compatible, and i don't have to redesign a website JUST for 1 browser..

If i was doing something wrong with my designs, then it's my fault, but when Firefox, Safari, Opera, Chrome, on Windows / Mac / Linux platforms work perfectly fine, but IE 6 and IE 7 just !!!!s up the page, because it thinks differently (hang on.. apple is supposed to think differently), then Microsoft seriously have something wrong..

roll on the death of IE

PROLIANT

Here we go again, I have used Microsoft Internet Explorer since version 4.0, never had any problems that I could not solve myself, reliable, clean and fast.
So the EU is whingeing that Microsoft is harming competition by bundling IE with the Windows operating system? Many applications will not work without it installed including Microsoft Office, if you don’t like Microsoft then stop using their software and migrate to your saviour "Linux", you come on here complaining about Microsoft and how good Linux and Apple Mac are, yet a large percentage of you are hypocrites as you continue using Windows and IE, get real people.
You make a choice based on your individual requirements and stand by that choice, do not make un-informed non-technical statements about software unless you have technical data to back up your comment.

[Deleted User]

markymoo wrote: »

i prefer a browser that is standards compatible, and i don't have to redesign a website JUST for 1 browser..

Two browsers, the most commonly used worldwide.

If i was doing something wrong with my designs, then it's my fault, but when Firefox, Safari, Opera, Chrome, on Windows / Mac / Linux platforms work perfectly fine, but IE 6 and IE 7 just !!!!s up the page, because it thinks differently (hang on.. apple is supposed to think differently), then Microsoft seriously have something wrong..

I'm sure you can appreciate the development issues that plauged Microsoft in designing IE5, 6 & 7. Breaking compatibility with previous versions means causing a considerable impact on businesses that have bespoke software and intranets that all work fine as they are currently.

The IE team is not unlimited, they're resources have been focussed on security over compliance with such standards as CSS, which if I'm not wrong, isn't even part of an recognised ISO but merely a recommendation by W3C?

The crux of the matter is that IE7 just works and pages display. IE8 is improving on this to a point where it's reigning in some of the issues of the past to the point that most people won't even be aware they were issues in the first place.

As a developer it's your responsibility to make sure your work appears as intended no matter how it is presented. Complain all you like about that, but the end user and client don't really care about the how, what, why or whens just as long as they get the product as they wanted.

TerryC_2

I've always used Firefox because it seems to load pages much faster (on my system anyway) and it has many useful free gadgets and add-ons but only have to resort to using IE for some pages that are not compatible with non-IE browsers.

M4RKM

anewhope wrote: »

Two browsers, the most commonly used worldwide.

The crux of the matter is that IE7 just works and pages display. IE8 is improving on this to a point where it's reigning in some of the issues of the past to the point that most people won't even be aware they were issues in the first place.

As a developer it's your responsibility to make sure your work appears as intended no matter how it is presented. Complain all you like about that, but the end user and client don't really care about the how, what, why or whens just as long as they get the product as they wanted.

IE 7 doesn't work but everything else does, I have to hack standard code to make it work, when it comes to CSS.

if other browsers can be both have the security element, and display things as it is meant to, then why can't microsoft do that. IE6 could have done this, IE7 should have done this, but they're only just getting to it on IE8

It is my responsibility, but to spend hours designing something that works in 4 out of 5 browsers (i'm classing IE as 1 regardless of version, so FF, Safari, Opera, IE, Chrome) just to regain the remaining 45.7% of users on the internet which actually isn't the majority now, then MS are doing something wrong!

What bugs me more is when you have big companies that design sites that ONLY work in IE. they're discriminating against the MAJORITY of people!

M

Aiadi

anewhope wrote: »

Me, I prefer a simple browser with tabs which is why I stick to IE.

And who was it that came up with the idea of tabbed browsing (that you seem to like) in the first place???
http://news!!!!et.com/IE-7-to-take-a-cue-from-Firefox/2100-1032_3-5710357.html