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Cost of a new build in northern ireland

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  • mofopants
    mofopants Posts: 274 Forumite
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    edited 6 June 2013 at 2:13PM
    Hi there,

    I work for a timberframe company who specialises in building affordable energy efficient homes.

    As said before, how much a house costs is "a piece of string" question. We specialise in building a house correctly. We build he structural and thermal envelop and you self build/ contract the rest (block work, tiles,windows, internal joinery, plumbing,electrics, sanitary ware, kitchens etc). This means you have more control over you budget.

    Many houses we are involved in come in at £70-80 although one or two are over that due to particular design features. We have experience in zinc roofs and large glazing areas.

    In the last 5 years we have built a number of homes across the UK and Ireland which have such little heat loss that they do not need a central heating system, just a small heat source. This means that an open plan house of +3,500 sq ft with large north facing picture windows and no curtains, built at £75 per sq ft with a constant internal temp of +20 oC had a space heating bill of £350 using a 5.5 kw pellet burning room heater. A 2700 sq ft house using a 5 kw multi fuel stove last year used £130 of logs/briquettes. We have plenty more examples of how by building homes of between 1500-4500 sq ft, the heat requirement to maintain an internal temperature of 20 oC when it is -5oC outside is .5-7 k/wh repectively. All at a sensible budget with no catchs!


    A

    I'm pretty sure we got a price from you and it was a bit more expensive to get it to the spec required for the no central heating
  • Ecobuilder
    Ecobuilder Posts: 11 Forumite
    edited 6 June 2013 at 3:34PM
    mofopants wrote: »
    I'm pretty sure we got a price from you and it was a bit more expensive to get it to the spec required for the no central heating

    I don't want to get in more trouble for answering with the company name, but I thought it best I answered this.

    If your house was between 1,800 and 4,000 sq ft, without being an off the wall design or having an unusually high spec, I would be very surprised if it came in at over £78 per sq ft. It can be very hard for us to quantify the amount people might spend elsewhere in their home, but I have recently spoke with about 20 of our recent customers and only 1 came in at over £80 and that was a very special house. The rest came in between £72 and £80.

    The No Central Heating Specification we offer is between £8,000 and £10,000 more than our main product, however the saving you will make in your Central Heating Capital Spend should make the cost neutral or very close.
  • Hi all,

    I was hoping I might get some advice on how much it would cost to build a house of around 2800 sq ft. I am not looking for an exclusive style property, just a good solid build which can be relied upon. I have read quotes ranging from £50 per sq/ft to £80 and its very difficult to get any real information online or just speaking briefly to builders. Also how much generally would be advised to allow on top for Kitchens, bathrooms, fireplace etc.

    I am really trying to work out if our thoughts are in the right ball park. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
  • motorguy
    motorguy Posts: 22,611 Forumite
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    Hi all,

    I was hoping I might get some advice on how much it would cost to build a house of around 2800 sq ft. I am not looking for an exclusive style property, just a good solid build which can be relied upon. I have read quotes ranging from £50 per sq/ft to £80 and its very difficult to get any real information online or just speaking briefly to builders. Also how much generally would be advised to allow on top for Kitchens, bathrooms, fireplace etc.

    I am really trying to work out if our thoughts are in the right ball park. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    I would say budget £70 sq ft and you wont be that far away.

    Kitchen - £5000 -> £30,000 depending on your taste
    Bathrooms - Budget £5000 ish for reasonable quality sanitaryware. £10K upwards if you're thinking towards high end stuff.
    Fireplace - £1500 -> £10,000.
  • Thanks for your reply Paul. Glad to know we can make some sense of the myriad articles and pieces out there!

    Just want to clarify something. When you say 70 per sq/ft I am assuming that excludes the prices u mention for kitchen, bathroom etc.
  • hi,


    I am intending on self-building currently waiting on the full plans to be approved on a 2000 sqft two storey house in Northern Ireland.


    I will need to get a mortgage and I understand that the bank will require a breakdown of costs etc and I should have it for my own information. I was wondering if anyone who has already completed a self build who would have created an itemised list of what costs will be required would forward me their itemised list so that I could use this as a basis for developing my own.


    It would give me a heads up because I am sure there are lots of things I am not even aware of that should be costed I want to make sure my itemised costs are as detailed as possible for the build. I've tried to find a template on the www and cant seem to find any appropriate sample which I could use as a starting point.


    Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.


    Thanks
  • Really interesting thread which I stumbled across whilst in the process of putting together my own new build and trying to work out if I,m living in cloud cuckoo land. So the plans are drawn and approved for a split level detached with attic comprising
    740sq ft basement
    1380 sq ft ground floor
    400 sq ft attic
    My original brief was to finish the thing for £75 per sq ft - a standard finish. Without yet going to tender my architect is suggesting figures of £100 per sq ft for the basement and £80 ground floor EXCLUDING landscaping kitchen bathrooms professional fees etc. Ballpark figures _ I want to move in for K180 whilst his approx costings (and he should have a reasonable idea of the local market) K202 excluding the above. Are building costs of £75 per sq ft no longer realistic . On the basis that I could not wire a plug the project will eventually go to a local contractor although perhaps apparently not to the same specs. The views of those with any recent experience would be appreciated
  • Hi Nad Nad,

    What was the small family firm that you went with?

    Thanks

    Jen
  • oc75
    oc75 Posts: 20 Forumite
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    nadnad wrote: »
    ours is around 2000sq ft downstairs though the upstairs has been left ready to convert (ie its floored, windows, plumbed, has sockets and lights - basically just needs the walls and a bathroom inslalled) and with that down the house would be over 3200 sq ft, we also have a double garage. Our house cost a grand total of £150,000 to build and its a great house - thats with underfloor heating, triple glazing and other little "upgrades" we chose. We used a small very reputable family firm.
    Very interesting indeed. We are close to paying 200k to buy a house and wondering what sort of house we could build for that money if we already had a suitable site. Can you advise a bit further on what this included; plumbing, electrics, utility connections, flooring, stairs, doors n skirting, driveway? Thanks.
  • motorguy
    motorguy Posts: 22,611 Forumite
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    oc75 wrote: »
    Very interesting indeed. We are close to paying 200k to buy a house and wondering what sort of house we could build for that money if we already had a suitable site. Can you advise a bit further on what this included; plumbing, electrics, utility connections, flooring, stairs, doors n skirting, driveway? Thanks.

    I'd be very surprised if it included siteworks (driveway, lawns, fences, paving, etc). We paid £23,000 for that alone.

    Also, building is a very cash hungry activity and things come up you never think of. Our "finished" house had a contracted price of £273,000 but it took another £60,000 to get us in the door to a finished house - unexpected costs, kitchens, bathrooms, en suites, fireplaces, siteworks, etc.

    The "pain" comes when you've budgeted say £200,000, got your mortgage agreed (if you need one) and the finished house comes in at £250,000. £50,000 is a lot to find ad hoc.
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