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Kids hols during termtime - 10 days max ?

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  • spursman
    spursman Posts: 247 Forumite
    ejones please read message number 15 on this thread, a government edict i believe.
    NOWHERE in the education act does it say children are allowed 10 days out of school.
    an aside there are 165 schooldays each year so if say 3 pupils a class take 10 days off for family holidays, surely all the other pupils must be allowed 10 days off as its unfair they have to attend 165 schooldays(barring illness) because they have conscientious parents who holiday in the other 200 days of the year or their parents cant afford to take them on holiday.
    THe inset teacher training days (in KCC) are tagged onto the end of or beginning of term school children will always get 165 schooldays a year barring unforeseen circumstances(ie school closure because of bad weather/heating failure etc)
  • Spendless
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    I've gone from hating inset days to loving them. I find them very money saving:D . Cos all the schools in our town seem to have different teacher training days I can take the kids swimming and I get the cheap term-time price, unlike in the school hols:mad: .
    Want to go away for the weekend,use the teacher trainer days and you've got a long weekend and no time off school.
    They've reduced amount of time child has out of school if there's an inset day in the hols.
    Sometimes I've seen price of hols go up just as kids start their weeks hols, if kidsr schools is closed early for inset days, might be able to set off earlier and get price cheaper.
  • divadee
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    I have already approached the teacher about work for little miss divdaee to do whilst she is away. She will do a trip report with piccys etc... to show the class.


    SO far she will be getting 3 x sheets of maths work 3 x sheets of spellings. REading books and trip report and also bought maths activity books by me.

    I will try to get some done in the half term, and then the rest on hols, i do this so she still keeps up with her class, and gets a holiday
  • Eagle_1
    Eagle_1 Posts: 8,484 Forumite
    spursman wrote:
    so there are cheap holidays out there if you look for them

    Aye, you just need to know where to look and for someone like myself who has only holidayed in this country for the last 15 years then its not as easy as you make it seem.

    This year we are planning to go abroad somewhere and after pricing the holidays for August time we are now thinking maybe it would make a lot more sense going May/june time, if we do decide to go with that plan then I am not that bothered about my 10 yr old missing a short time out of school as it will be the first time we have ever done it.

    For any kid having time out of school as long as they dont abuse it and have lots of hols during term time then I really dont see a problem.
  • Quackers wrote:
    And what if you work in a job where you cannot have the school holidays off?

    I know I took the job through choice but it pays the bills as they say and does enable me to have the kind of holiday I want to have.

    My eldest daughter is disabled. We always go in November as it is quieter. She could not stand the hustle and bustle of busy school holiday times and to be honest we dont like it much too. ;)

    Although the 2 reasons why I do it are maybe slightly different than other peoples reasons I too, do not think taking children out of school for 2 weeks in the year does them a huge amount of harm.

    Also, saying that 2 weeks holiday in the sun, swimming and sitting in a bar of an evening doing nothing is a huge generalisation. And even if that is what happens then it is quality family time that may not happen during the day to day lives that some families have :confused:

    if your job means that you are unable to take time off in the school holidays ( something like a contractor who has to go into schools when they are closed ) again i presume you would be one of those people who the law recognise may need to take a holiday in term time ...i'm sure on that basis you shouldn't have a problem when you submit the reasoning to the school. other people taking the kids out for financial reasons probably doesn't help individuals like yourself who have no choice.
    i also think that schools don't see much value in the education attained while on these holidays. 1. the knowledge picked up is the same in august as it is in june. 2. parents would be taking the kids out to go to madrid rather than mallorca or washington dc rather than disney
  • spursman wrote:
    ejones please read message number 15 on this thread, a government edict i believe.
    NOWHERE in the education act does it say children are allowed 10 days out of school.
    an aside there are 165 schooldays each year so if say 3 pupils a class take 10 days off for family holidays, surely all the other pupils must be allowed 10 days off as its unfair they have to attend 165 schooldays(barring illness) because they have conscientious parents who holiday in the other 200 days of the year or their parents cant afford to take them on holiday.
    THe inset teacher training days (in KCC) are tagged onto the end of or beginning of term school children will always get 165 schooldays a year barring unforeseen circumstances(ie school closure because of bad weather/heating failure etc)

    My son's Primary school was closed last Monday! Nowhere near a start or end of term.
    Also see belowFamily Holidays During Term Time

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    The Law

    Under section 444 of the Education Act 1996, parents of a child of compulsory school age are under a legal duty to ensure the child attends regularly the school at which he or she is registered.

    Under Section 8 of the Education (Pupil Registration) Regulations 1995 (amended), schools have a discretionary power to authorise leave for an annual family holiday during term time, up to a period of ten school days. Parents cannot authorise a child's absence.

    In exceptional circumstances the school may grant leave for more than ten school days in any one school year. Such permission is granted in accordance with arrangements made by the Governing Body of the school.

    If a pupil fails to return on or before the agreed return date, the school will wait for ten further days. If the child has not then returned to school and there is no good reason for continued absences (eg illness), the school may remove the child from the school roll.

    This has never been repealed.
  • spursman
    spursman Posts: 247 Forumite
    it says under exceptional circumstances even then it doesnt say it will be granted
  • spursman
    spursman Posts: 247 Forumite
    i have just had a quick check on the net i have found 50+ holidays in europe leaving between 1 Aug & 8 Aug for less than £250 i have found 10+ 2 week holidays in Florida leaving same dates for less than £1000 granted finding them & them really being available may be 2 different things
    the prices are pp
  • Zoetoes
    Zoetoes Posts: 2,496 Forumite
    As long as it's not during SATs/exams etc & the kids are not off a lot then I will bloody well take them on holiday if I want to! They're my kids! It's hardly making their education suffer taking them out of school for 2 weeks for gods sake.

    If we 'should' be taking them during the school hols then the government can start sending out Thomson vouchers to cover the BIG difference in price!
    If you're going to stalk me, while you're at it can you cut the grass, feed the dog & make sure I've got bread & milk in :D
  • slobbery
    slobbery Posts: 133 Forumite
    :T :T
    zoeleigh wrote:
    As long as it's not during SATs/exams etc & the kids are not off a lot then I will bloody well take them on holiday if I want to! They're my kids! It's hardly making their education suffer taking them out of school for 2 weeks for gods sake.

    If we 'should' be taking them during the school hols then the government can start sending out Thomson vouchers to cover the BIG difference in price!


    Hear, hear!! :T :T :T :T
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