Updated Printable Money off Coupons & Policies Thread 3

Browntoa

ok everyone , been reading the thread and noticed the following

1) some posters advocating fraud by using single store vouchers in another store

2) some over abusive posts

if the thread starts to degenerate futher I'll have to lock the combined thread (which you all wanted) and start a "code only" thread again .

If you want a pointless playground fight start a thread over on the arms

the minority will spoil it for you all

Harrietxxx

Browntoa wrote: »

ok everyone , been reading the thread and noticed the following

1) some posters advocating fraud by using single store vouchers in another store

2) some over abusive posts

if the thread starts to degenerate futher I'll have to lock the combined thread (which you all wanted) and start a "code only" thread again .

If you want a pointless playground fight start a thread over on the arms

the minority will spoil it for you all

:T :T :T :T :T :T :T :T :T

Quentin

Browntoa wrote: »

ok everyone , been reading the thread and noticed the following1) some posters advocating fraud by using single store vouchers in another store

How is it fraud (ie a criminal offence) to hand in "single store vouchers" in another store when the "other" store has a policy of accepting any vouchers in their stores and advertises that policy?

Tesco have a sophisticated till system. If they don't want a particular voucher, this system rejects it. Customers cannot be expected to know which vouchers it is prepared to fraudulently take without trying them out.

As already posted, any "fraud" is the one done by Tesco who happily take vouchers irrespective of the ts + cs on the voucher, and where they can apparently redeem the vouchers for cash, even though they don't insist on the actual product being bought.

A row breaks out whenever that (or similar) point is made to the "regulars" (who are prepared to go to such lengths as inserting barcodes to "clean up" their vouchers) who fear their little abusive game will get stopped.

Browntoa

if the voucher says WH Smith only then its fraud...unless as you say Tesco or others say they are prepared to accept them

inserting barcodes is definately out of order

I'm asking that people tone things down otherwise I'll lock this thread and refer it to abuse , then just sticky a code only thread

Quentin

I posted (accurately) that they are prepared to accept them.

This particular coupon has regularly been printed with similar type restrictions (eg valid only at smiths, or independent retailers etc).

Tesco have always taken them.

The fraud in all this lies at tesco's door - they are the ones who take in all sorts of vouchers (some actually use the condition that a retailer taking the coupon when the product has not been bought is fraud), but are they bothered?

If you are asking people to tone things down, please look at the personal abuse some posters dish out to anyone with an opposing view to their own!

heskpesk

Quentin wrote: »

"Customers cannot be expected to know which vouchers it is prepared to fraudulently take without trying them out."

Whether Tesco policy is morally correct or unfair to manufacturers is not really for us to decide. However in answer to your quote above I think customers can be expected to know especially when the MOC has WHSMith on it in big letters.

Whether Tesco policy is "fraud" in general is out of our hands so all we can do is abide and work within the boundaries set in the policy. Therefore attempting to pass off a WHSMITH MOC particularly when you know the policy is not fair game.

I appreciate Tesco accept money off spend coupons from other stores but that is their marketing plan and policy so obviously within the rules to use these.

I think browntoa is correct that advocating activity that is outside policy could be classed as fraud. In my opinion its certainly deception but more importantly risks long term policy decisions concerning MOCS.

If you have such a strong feeling that Tesco policy itself is fraud then do not not shop there - voice your disgust with your feet.

Quentin

So it's ok to take in a voucher that says use this at sainsbury's and get £5 off, but not ok to take one in that says use it at Smiths and get £3.80 off?

No, they take anything their tills accept. If it's a loss leader they don't care - they are happy because you are spending in their store. If they get the money back fraudulently by claiming it off the manufacturer they are happy twice.

Unintended_Muse

Quentin wrote: »

I posted (accurately) that they are prepared to accept them.

This particular coupon has regularly been printed with similar type restrictions (eg valid only at smiths, or independent retailers etc).

Tesco have always taken them.

The fraud in all this lies at tesco's door - they are the ones who take in all sorts of vouchers (some actually use the condition that a retailer taking the coupon when the product has not been bought is fraud), but are they bothered?

If you are asking people to tone things down, please look at the personal abuse some posters dish out to anyone with an opposing view to their own!

Just because you get a disinterested sa who puts through mocs without reading them properly, or who just really doesn't give a monekys, that does NOT mean Tesco accept these mocs.

My local store are quite clear they do not take the mocs from the Daily Mail, which state for use at Waitrose, WH Smiths and independent coupon accepting stores only.

Tesco advertises it accepts Spend & Save mocs. Even with this, not all stores will - it depends if they saee the store as competition or not.

They are also very clear they do not accept mocs such as 50p off cola at Somerfield. The mocs that are for WH Smiths are no different to that and so it is against Tesco policy and they all consider it to be fraud.

Local policy has been clamped down hard on due to what was described to me as fraud by the CS, ie people using other stores mocs in Tesco.

Many people enjoy this thread, wether they post or not. I can't even use Internet mocs any more due to fraudulent use or doctored mocs in store, but still like to look in ont ehantics of Mad and co from time to time.

Please don't spoil things for other posters/readers of this thread, when Browntoa has made it very clear the thread will be locked if things carry on.

Unintended_Muse

Quentin wrote: »

So it's ok to take in a voucher that says use this at sainsbury's and get £5 off, but not ok to take one in that says use it at Smiths and get £3.80 off?

No, they take anything their tills accept. If it's a loss leader they don't care - they are happy because you are spending in their store. If they get the money back fraudulently by claiming it off the manufacturer they are happy twice.

They are NOT happy to take them though, that is the point. Disinterested is not the same as happy. I have been told they do not accept those coupons, and accept that. I've seen what happens to coupon use when people ignore the policy. You may not care if your store refuse to take any mocs soon, but others will.

heskpesk

Quentin wrote: »

So it's ok to take in a voucher that says use this at sainsbury's and get £5 off, but not ok to take one in that says use it at Smiths and get £3.80 off?

No, they take anything their tills accept. If it's a loss leader they don't care - they are happy because you are spending in their store. If they get the money back fraudulently by claiming it off the manufacturer they are happy twice.

I refer you to paragraph three of my previous post.

Due to Browntoa's "lock" threat I will leave it here for fear of receiving detention and you being sent to the corner in a pointy hat.

Im surprised you even enter Tesco if you feel their policy is potentially fraud and terrible for manufacturers - is that not rather hypocritical