Car workers on £13–14,000 a month – true???

confused31_2

Northernmisfit wrote: »

I can't see Nissan giving a good pay out like you've just mentioned. At the end of the day they are only obligated to give us 1 week's pay for every year worked, anything above that is a bonus. They are going down the voluntary route first so i guess the package will have to be pretty attractive to get any takers, but i very much doubt the figure will be any where near the figure you just mentioned.

Im just going on whats previously happened at Land Rover, i dont know whats happening at nissan, the last car plant to close in the midlands was ryton peugeot and they got very big payouts and where even given cars.

heres a link to thr ryton plant closure they got between 1 to 3 years pay depending on how long they had been there.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/coventry_warwickshire/6198052.stm

The other one in recent times, well in the 90's was dagenham ford and they got massive payouts aswell.

Infact the only car plant i know of with no one getting decent payouts was Rover, but they folded.

Sir_Humphrey

I suspect this is one of the Grauniad's famous typos.

greenwheels007

So theyre getting 25K wages an my taxes should bail them out?

Hmmm let me think about that one!

confused31_2

Ive heard of someone today there is going to be either compulsary redundancys, or one of the plants closing at Jaguar Land Rover, this will be announced tomorrow.

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confused31_2

greenwheels007 wrote: »

So theyre getting 25K wages an my taxes should bail them out?

Hmmm let me think about that one!

I know its not right your taxes going to bail them out, but what actually will happen to your taxes if they dont?? im sure they said it was a loan theyre not giving the money away, they will get it back with interest.

From what ive heard there will be upto 2000 people being told they are going to be made redundant tomorrow, so when they start clainming it will be at least another 200,000 pound a week in benifit payouts, what they will never get back.

Your taxes will just pay them, when they are out of work

aeuerby

confused31 wrote: »

I know its not right your taxes going to bail them out, but what actually will happen to your taxes if they dont?? im sure they said it was a loan theyre not giving the money away, they will get it back with interest.

From what ive heard there will be upto 2000 people being told they are going to be made redundant tomorrow, so when they start clainming it will be at least another 200,000 pound a week in benifit payouts, what they will never get back.

Your taxes will just pay them, when they are out of work

I've been saying that for ages but few seem to understand it!

confused31_2

aeuerby wrote: »

I've been saying that for ages but few seem to understand it!

The thing that makes me laugh people moan about paying with taxpayers money, but what does taxpayers money get spent on??

Infact has taxpayers what would we want them to spend it on, housing,feeding and clothing the unemployed aswell as supporting asylum seekers??

Or keeping a company afloat so people can pay their own way, instead of relying on all other taxpayers to pay for them to live??

I know for one thing they have not spent it very well on policing, schools and the nhs so it must be all going to support the unemployed.

Why do all us taxpayers, think the government are breaking their necks to try and get people back to work??

Is it so they can pay their own way or to pay the government taxes to put in the pot for the unemployed?

piggeh

I think it's to keep them busy or they'll be a riotting

I do agree with JLR especially as a large number of items come from within the UK supply base (at a guess). However, if this is just money to help with working capital then surely this can be covered by the tens of millions pumped in by their parent company recently?

I don't agree with rumours that they'll shut a plant, only that some lines are coming to an end. However these have ready made replacements lines up so they'll still need to keep the plants running (although there'll be a small month slump or so when they need to change the lines for another model).

I think a lot of final quarter results get announced end of Jan/Feb so that will be a good indication as to how much trouble a lot of these manufacturers are in.

confused31_2

Heres where the money is supposed to be spent, but theres got to be question asked to if it is!!!
http://prebudget.treasury.gov.uk/prebudget2008/where_money_is_spent.htm


Now look at this, this is what all us taxpayers are paying for, its shocking!!!!!!!!!!!


You have all jumped oin the dont give Jaguar Landrover a loan lets just pay for these type of things!!!!!!!!!


The government has given the british taxpayers money to zimbabwe 150 million of our money as gone direct to mugabe who has paid it all into a bank in malaysia.
http://bnp.org.uk/2009/01/british-taxpayers-have-given-zimbabwe-nearly-150-million-while-mugabe-banks-cash-in-malaysia/
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/01/04/council-spends-28k-of-taxpayers-money-on-tea-and-biscuits-115875-21014189/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2006/aug/31/eu.politics
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/188619.stm
http://www.marieclaire.co.uk/news/celebrity/297457/celebrities-paid-90-000-of-taxpayers-money-to-front-health-campaigns.html
http://www.secularism.org.uk/governmentpoursevenmoretaxpayers.html
http://www.sundaymail.co.uk/news/scottish-news/2008/11/23/prison-poker-schools-funded-by-taxpayer-s-money-78057-20917607/
http://thethunderdragon.co.uk/category/wasting-taxpayers-money
http://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/4005923.Tendring__Long_holiday_for_some/
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23595637-details/%C3%82%C2%A328%20million:%20the%20annual%20payout%20to%20our%20councillors/article.do?expand=true


AND THERES LOADS MORE, TRUST ME JUST DO A SEARCH

Each time a cruise missile was launched in iraq it cost the taxpayer 1million pounds, i think thats where a lot of the taxpayers money has gone.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/lengthy-conflict-could-cost-british-taxpayers-acircpound5bn-602487.html


So when a company asks for a loan, not a bail out, so we the british taxpayer get it back, it dont look that bad when you see the above does it?????

piggeh

I think they're seperate issues really, we should never justify one expense because of a poor allocation of funds elsewhere, although the JLR issue would to me seem to be a good use of funds and I cant see any loan going bad.