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House prices and taxes

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  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    macaque wrote: »
    Over a million people cannot afford their council tax. Many pensioners have to go hungry and cold to pay council tax. Taxes are driving businesses to other parts of Europe.

    Do our public servants care? In your case, apparantly not. Your only reaction is "Its the green eyed envy monster". The only bit you left out was 'I'm alright Jack'.

    Most/if not all pensioners, whose CT is 20% of income will have the council tax paid by the state.

    (for old people, it can be over 20%) Dogma in the extreme :D Let not the truth get in the way of a good story.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • nickmason wrote: »
    Most people probably don't realise that their council tax also pays towards fire and policy authorities...

    In London they are listed separately, so much for Camden, so much for the police, fire, and GLA.
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  • macaque_2
    macaque_2 Posts: 2,439 Forumite
    StevieJ wrote: »
    Most/if not all pensioners, whose CT is 20% of income will have the council tax paid by the state.

    (for old people, it can be over 20%) Dogma in the extreme :D

    The introduction of means testing has resulted in large numbers of old people not claiming their entitlements.
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    macaque wrote: »
    The introduction of means testing has resulted in large numbers of old people not claiming their entitlements.

    So what % is that then? You can lead a horse to water etc.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • vivatifosi
    vivatifosi Posts: 18,746 Forumite
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    I don't know but it includes my parents. They haven't gone for means tested benefits ever, see them as something that's not for them and you will never change their minds. It is surprisingly prevalent, though I don't have stats either.
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  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    vivatifosi wrote: »
    I don't know but it includes my parents. They haven't gone for means tested benefits ever, see them as something that's not for them and you will never change their minds. It is surprisingly prevalent, though I don't have stats either.

    I hope you help them pay their CT then.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • macaque_2
    macaque_2 Posts: 2,439 Forumite
    StevieJ wrote: »
    You can lead a horse to water etc.
    Means testing is an unpleasant process that old people very reasonably object to. Like others in government, your reaction is to look at everything but the elephant in the room. Does it not occur to you that to have 1.2 million people in council tax arrears is evidence that council taxes have gone way beyond affordable levels. To get back to the original theme, does it not occur to you that house prices will turn to sawdust if the public sector cannot get its spending under control.
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    macaque wrote: »
    Means testing is an unpleasant process that old people very reasonably object to. Like others in government, your reaction is to look at everything but the elephant in the room. Does it not occur to you that to have 1.2 million people in council tax arrears is evidence that council taxes have gone way beyond affordable levels. To get back to the original theon about peopleme, does it not occur to you that house prices will turn to sawdust if the public sector cannot get its spending under control.

    One minute you guys are going on about people mewing,foreign holidays, Sky tv, smoking, alcohol etc. Does it not occur to you that some people may be in arrears because they spend the money on something else :D All your posts appear to be party political propoganda.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • beingjdc
    beingjdc Posts: 1,680 Forumite
    macaque wrote: »
    Chief Executive

    (note, this is a borough council)


    Only until April, then it becomes a unitary delivering all council services in the local area, I imagine that's why they need a new Chief Exec.
    Hurrah, now I have more thankings than postings, cheers everyone!
  • beingjdc
    beingjdc Posts: 1,680 Forumite
    carolt wrote: »
    That's an argument possibly for greater council tax benefits for pensioners - although given that many pensioners are very equity rich if cash poor, I'm not sure how 'fair' it is for the average waged but priced out FTB's to be supporting those currently choosing to stay on in their 5 bedroom houses (my parents, for example, in case you think I'm getting at other people here).

    In my view, all pensioners who own homes outright but have little income should be allowed to defer payment of council tax indefinitely, at an interest rate close to RPI, to be paid out of their estate.
    Hurrah, now I have more thankings than postings, cheers everyone!
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