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Insurance renewal question

Hello all

I have received my renewal quote from Lloyds for my buildings and insurance. Needless to say, it has increased from last year.

My question is, to all you savvy MSE'ers, could I buy a NEW policy with Lloyds using the quidco cashback site, and take advantage of the £90 cashback, or would it be blocked because I am an existing customer?

Many Thanks
"Carpe Diem"
MFW - Starting mortgage April 2010 - 120,000
MFW - restart Nov 2013 - £70207.88 & £14086.49
Current balance - £62459.49 & £10380.19

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  • You are effectively planning to defraud the insurer by mis-representing yourself as a new customer to pocket £90 and your only query is will they find out?
  • tinkerbell84
    tinkerbell84 Posts: 5,323 Forumite
    You are effectively planning to defraud the insurer by mis-representing yourself as a new customer to pocket £90 and your only query is will they find out?

    :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

    OP - there is nothing to stop you doing this and many on here do.
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 121,292 Forumite
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    needless to say, it has increased from last year.

    Why do you say that? I see many that go down as well as many that go up. It isnt a safe assumption to say it will go up every year.

    There is nothing to stop you doing what you say. Until the insurers decide to stop it from happening and suffering losses on these policies, there is nothing to stop you doing it.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • It isn't a safe assumption that insurers aren't monitoring this. I think many will be withdrawing from the cashback sites IMO.
  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 121,292 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    It isn't a safe assumption that insurers aren't monitoring this. I think many will be withdrawing from the cashback sites IMO.

    NU did say in the past they were going to stop buying insurance business and running it at a loss. They did for a short while but no-one else did so they lost market share. Now they are back doing it again.

    You would think that they cannot keep doing it but at the moment it is still a relatively small number in terms of the number of policies out there. Plus, shareholders like market share figures to improve generally. The more people do it, the more likely the loopholes that allow it will close.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • worried_jim
    worried_jim Posts: 11,631 Forumite
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    I buy a new policy with Barclays every year and always do it as a new customer and always get it cheaper then if I was to renew it.
  • I wonder if some insurers are giving cashback when a customer is moving between brands owned by the same firm?
  • julliff
    julliff Posts: 625 Forumite
    Why would I be defrauding the insurer, by going throught the cashback site? I will be using all my true credentials. The question was not will they find out, but is it allowed.

    If indeed it is tantamount to fraud, then I will simply shop around and use a different company where I can get the cashback. Shame as I would like to retain business with Lloyds, but in the current economic climate, I need to save money (wich is why I'm on this site in the first place).

    Also, isn't it one of Martins premises that insurance companies effectively hike the cost of the renewals, hoping that inertia will make people just stick with the same policy?
    "Carpe Diem"
    MFW - Starting mortgage April 2010 - 120,000
    MFW - restart Nov 2013 - £70207.88 & £14086.49
    Current balance - £62459.49 & £10380.19

  • dunstonh
    dunstonh Posts: 121,292 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Combo Breaker
    Also, isn't it one of Martins premises that insurance companies effectively hike the cost of the renewals, hoping that inertia will make people just stick with the same policy?

    I dont know but it would be a wrong assumption. Or at least the wrong conclusion. Many products are retailed with a year 1 discount. So for these, you are almost certainly going to see an increase in year 2.

    My experience is that the plans that dont tend to have year 1 discounts tend to be the plans that have more consistent premiums year after year and can show drops.
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • julliff
    julliff Posts: 625 Forumite
    Just checking, but I definitely read it somewhere here.
    Apply for cover from your existing insurer as a new customer and it’s likely you’ll be given a cheaper price. This is because home insurers like any company will happily profit from apathy if they can. It’s for this reason renewal notifications are sent as near to renewal as possible; as then you’re pressured for time and less likely to try and find a cheaper price.

    The article is here:

    http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/insurance/home-insurance

    I'm really confused now, as the impcation on this thread seems to be that it is ethically wrong to use the cashback site to renew as a new customer.
    "Carpe Diem"
    MFW - Starting mortgage April 2010 - 120,000
    MFW - restart Nov 2013 - £70207.88 & £14086.49
    Current balance - £62459.49 & £10380.19

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