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Debt Relief Orders (DRO) - Information & help thread

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  • Dizzymum_3
    Dizzymum_3 Posts: 81 Forumite
    HI DD

    Total income will be 991.01 month / 228.69 week

    this is income support 278.64 month / 64.30 week
    child tax credit 395.16 month / 91.19 week
    child benefit 143.87 month / 33.20 week

    plus my sons NON-dependant contribution 173.34 month / 40.00 week

    at the moment i recieve 42.34 a week income support as they are deducting
    21.96 a week for social fund loan. i was told to do SOA on full benefit as no deductions would be taken after DRO .

    hope i havent confused you

    Thank you
  • debt_doctor
    debt_doctor Posts: 4,595 Forumite
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    Hi,

    It is very difficult to answer because the fact is, nobody knows ! My feeling is that the creditor could well object and you could be the first person with a DRRO !

    They could argue that you have assets over £300, you could argue they are essential goods. If you lose the argument your order would be revoked and you would lose your £ 90.

    I asked a similar question during the training and was told " yes, you'll have to look out for that":confused:....and the answer is..????

    DD
    Debt Doctor, Debt caseworker, Citizens' Advice Bureau .
    Impartial debt advice services: Citizens Advice Bureau Find your local CAB *** National Debtline - Tel: 0808 808 4000*** BSC No. 100 ***
  • Godiva500 wrote: »
    My cooker is very old(inherited and about 10 years old), and has just gone bang, and i desperately need to replace it, and my settee ( about 15 years old) has a cracked frame and is falling apart.

    Have you thought of Freecycle? (www.uk.freecycle.org)

    It's people basically giving away stuff they no longer want/need. I have friends who have picked up vitrually all their furniture from freecyclers, and it's good stuff too! I have a few bits and pieces from there too...

    HTH
  • debt_doctor
    debt_doctor Posts: 4,595 Forumite
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    Dizzymum wrote: »

    at the moment i recieve 42.34 a week income support as they are deducting
    21.96 a week for social fund loan. i was told to do SOA on full benefit as no deductions would be taken after DRO .


    Thank you

    This question came up too, in two seperate groups that my colleagues attended. One trainer said deductions would stop immediately, another said they would stop after one year !

    All those entering in to a DRO in the first few months are part of a large experiment until we see what the practice is going to be.

    Your soa is reasonable, id say you all eat slightly too much but dont seem to travel anywhere at all- if you get my drift;)- and wot no mobile?

    DD
    Debt Doctor, Debt caseworker, Citizens' Advice Bureau .
    Impartial debt advice services: Citizens Advice Bureau Find your local CAB *** National Debtline - Tel: 0808 808 4000*** BSC No. 100 ***
  • debt_doctor
    debt_doctor Posts: 4,595 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker

    I can here it now 'but CAB/CCCS/etc checked it all and said it was OK, so i want my money back'

    :rolleyes:

    ...and so can we - the training got pretty hostile in the end - the only people who can advise you are the authorised intermediaries and I guarentee you - WE DONT KNOW.

    DD
    Debt Doctor, Debt caseworker, Citizens' Advice Bureau .
    Impartial debt advice services: Citizens Advice Bureau Find your local CAB *** National Debtline - Tel: 0808 808 4000*** BSC No. 100 ***
  • Dizzymum_3
    Dizzymum_3 Posts: 81 Forumite
    edited 5 April 2009 at 6:55PM
    Hi DD

    Thank you so much for your advice,

    This is my SOA with the amont of benefit as what i recieve now.
    not what i hope to recieve if they stop deductions.

    I thought 2 trips a week on the bus ( £8.00 return. 1 adult 1 child) 69.00 a month would be classed as going out to much . so cut it to 40.00 on last SOA have put it back to 69.00

    I havent included mobile as thought this had to come out of my surplus.

    thank you


    Statement of Affairs and Personal Balance Sheet

    Household Information

    Number of adults in household........... 2
    Number of children in household......... 2
    Number of cars owned.................... 0

    Monthly Income Details

    Monthly income after tax................ 0
    Partners monthly income after tax....... 0
    Benefits................................ 722.51
    Other income............................ 173.34
    Total monthly income.................... 895.85


    Monthly Expense Details

    Mortgage................................ 0
    Secured/HP loan repayments.............. 0
    Rent.................................... 75
    Management charge (leasehold property).. 0
    Council tax............................. 12
    Electricity............................. 50
    Gas..................................... 50
    Oil..................................... 0
    Water rates............................. 56.55
    Telephone (land line)................... 40
    Mobile phone............................ 0
    TV Licence.............................. 12.5
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 0
    Internet Services....................... 0
    Groceries etc. ......................... 440
    Clothing................................ 65
    Petrol/diesel........................... 0
    Road tax................................ 0
    Car Insurance........................... 0
    Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 0
    Car parking............................. 0
    Other travel............................ 69
    Childcare/nursery....................... 0
    Other child related expenses............ 0
    Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 0
    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 0
    Buildings insurance..................... 0
    Contents insurance...................... 12
    Life assurance ......................... 0
    Other insurance......................... 0
    Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 0
    Haircuts................................ 0
    Entertainment........................... 0
    Holiday................................. 0
    Emergency fund.......................... 0
    Total monthly expenses.................. 882.05



    Assets

    Cash.................................... 0
    House value (Gross)..................... 0
    Shares and bonds........................ 0
    Car(s).................................. 0
    Other assets............................ 0
    Total Assets............................ 0


    No Secured nor Hire Purchase Debts


    Unsecured Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    all............................6455......453.......0
    Total unsecured debts..........6455......453.......-



    Monthly Budget Summary

    Total monthly income.................... 895.85
    Expenses (including HP & secured debts). 882.05
    Available for debt repayments........... 13.8
    Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 453
    Amount short for making debt repayments. -439.2


    Personal Balance Sheet Summary
    Total assets (things you own)........... 0
    Total HP & Secured debt................. -0
    Total Unsecured debt.................... -6,455
    Net Assets.............................. -6,455


    Created using the SOA calculator at https://www.makesenseofcards.com.
    Reproduced on Moneysavingexpert with permission, using IE browser.





    many thanks again,
  • I think this is a brilliant idea, I just wish there was something similar for the rest of us struggling the pay debts and a mortgage.
    Wow, I got 3 *, when did that happen :j:T:p
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    I live in my head - I find it's safer there:p
  • ManAtHome
    ManAtHome Posts: 8,512 Forumite
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    Most people will have £300 worth of possessions, but it's items of large value or possessions you could sell and get substantial money for that exclude you from getting a DRO.
    Seems a very low "bar" - does that include jewellery, TVs (eg more than 1 as well as the massive plasma), hi-fi, computer kit, games consoles, iPods etc, flash mobiles, CD/DVD collections. Do you think this will help a substantial number of people, or is it just more smoke and mirrors?
  • Esio_Trot_2
    Esio_Trot_2 Posts: 12 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    stedxxx wrote: »
    The Insolvency Service who accepted their application must have trust and faith in their abilities to have given them the authority to carry out this work.
    I hear from a good source that the The Insolvency Service did not consult the OFT before including B+E in the "competent authority" list - and that the OFT went ape when they found out.
  • JCS1
    JCS1 Posts: 5,335 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    Just been told by another intermediary that the IS has anounced to them today that if you have more than £300 in a pension pot you will not be able to go for a DRO, Has this been mentioned before and i missed it, i dont think it has:confused:

    If not and its correct and not another missunderstanding (which i doubt)any more info on this is needed, is it included as an 'assett' or seperate?

    And following on from this, if pension is an asset, what about life assurance?
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