Boom-time on benefits: The 140,000 families who claim £20,000 a year in handouts

treliac

owls wrote: »

Thats the problem, you can see the sun paying them for there story, mind you who nowadays buys the sun newspaper its like a comic for people with an IQ of about 4 but that another story.

Um sorry, but whoever bought the Sun, ever?

owls

its the most popular selling daily newspaper apparently,

treliac

Oh well, says is all I s'pose.

lostinrates

treliac wrote: »

Um sorry, but whoever bought the Sun, ever?

TEFL and EFL teachers.

monkeymo

What would happen if the welfare state stopped providing welfare for anyone who has needed benefits for more than 6 months?

With the exception of (proven) incapacity benefit, would anyone who contributes to society really lose out? I don't read the daily mail and I don't necessarily advocate that this should happen, but I'd be interested to know what you guys think...?

Yoshua

monkeymo wrote: »

What would happen if the welfare state stopped providing welfare for anyone who has needed benefits for more than 6 months?

With the exception of (proven) incapacity benefit, would anyone who contributes to society really lose out? I don't read the daily mail and I don't necessarily advocate that this should happen, but I'd be interested to know what you guys think...?

Why the exeception of those claiming IB?

In most countries I have been to the family has to take care of those who cant work. When they get hungry they soon start working.

I hate the way the Gov gives them all cars that they can park anywhere they want.

Answer me this if they can drive why cant they do a driving job? Even if 7 of these so called IB claimants just worked 1 day a week each. At least they would be contributing something instead of just taking.

russ21282

I have just read the first 6 pages and can't believe some people are defending the people who are living off other people's hard work.

I'm not talking about genuine people who have just lost their job or have disability so there is not possible way they can work, but the lazy, unethical, scroungers in our society who think it is ok to live on the handouts.

A brief look at my work/education history goes like this:
at school - did a paper round then milk round
at college - did milk round before and worked in a shop in the evenings
year out - full time job and a part time job
uni - worked part time throughout
after uni - self employed, work all hours i can

I was never priviliged, well off, had lucky breaks, i'm not exceptional in any way, just have a decent work ethic and the ambition to do the best i can and provide the best i can for my family. There is NO reason anybody else should not have this mentality.

Now when people who are living off handouts from my tax have nice cars and big tv's, i immediately see a problem. I can't afford these things because i have to pay bills to live my life.

This country rewards the lazy and knocks back the people who are keeping this country going. many other places have a set period where if you loose your job, you get benefits for that time only anf then you are on your own. I don't see why our government can't implement something similar. As for the people who never work with no good reason, shouldn't be given a penny.

If a lion can't be arsed catching anything to eat, he dies and the other lions that can be arsed, have more food. And they deserve it in my opinion.

Lifeisbutadream

elaina79 wrote: »

The way that the media are all over this story is almost like this is the first time this has ever happened.
This is alot more common that people realise I think but no doubt over the next few months if there are more stories they will be spashed all over the papers.

Anyhoo back to the original topic of this thread regarding families on benefits. I know I'm gonna gets lots of abuse for this but I fall under the catagory of a family that gets over £20,000 a year in benefits.
However I am not fraudulently claiming anything, nor am I breeding for money. Up till last year I had a full time job, while my husband was looking after our kids. I became ill at the begining of last year and my husbands existing medical condition became worse.
As a result I had no choice but to leave my job to care for him and the kids as he was unable to carry on doing this.
I am only in receipt of what I am entitled to as a parent and a carer. Does this still in the eyes of some posters on here make me a scrounger or as some people have said "scum".

My husband and I would love to be able to work but with our circumstances we cannot at the moment. Would people prefer if we didn't get any money to live on and not be able to feed and look after our children.

Before I start, can I just say that I do not for one minute begrudge you or your children money or food. It is the system not the claimants who are in the wrong here.

My husband and I are self-employed - we run a building and joinery business together.

I because ill with anxiety and stress in October last year (although I didnt know what was wrong at the time, the physical symptoms were high blood pressure, heart palpitations, sickness, dizziness, no appetite etc.) my doctor kept trying to sign my off work :rolleyes: obviously that wasnt going to happen as if I had stopped working the money would have stopped and I am entitled to no benefits.

My husband has had a bad back on and off for 20 years - he too has to carry on working when he is ill.

What I would like to know is how many people, if faced with a situation, would actually stop working if they didnt get paid?

Can you imagine how difficult it is for someone like me to read that a family gets paid over £20K (plus all the extras such as free school meals, prescriptions etc.) when we work 110 hours a week between us and probably get around £25K between us after tax?

This country is a joke.

Broken_hearted

Probably as hard as it is for a working couple to have to give up everything when one gets ill and they have to beg the state for every penny while getting slated for being benefit scum.

Lifeisbutadream

Broken_hearted wrote: »

Probably as hard as it is for a working couple to have to give up everything when one gets ill and they have to beg the state for every penny while getting slated for being benefit scum.

How can it be as hard ? and how do you class getting over £20K a year tax free as 'giving up everything'

Nowadays nobody has to even know that you are on benefits unless you tell everyone!

I dont get labelled as 'hardworking' or, more appropriately 'mug'. I am sure that someone getting everything free can handle a label.