'illegal' mock-Tudor castle he tried to hide behind 40ft hay bales

Dinah93

Yes you can apply for a lawful development certificate after the enforcement team have been made aware of the problem - however in this case it is extremely unlikely he could have made it to 10 years without enforcement noticing a whacking great 'castle' on the horizon. And as has been shown, it was not eligable for an LDC since he tried to obscure the development. The clock does not start until the development is in the form you are applying for the LDC, in this case until the hay bales were removed. There is a lot of development goes on which is never reported to enforcement, and therefore can apply for a LDC after the appropriate time has elapsed. However whole houses are very rarely not reported unless they are extremely remote.

sabretoothtigger

Theres an advantage to owning all the land around then, oh to be a Scottish laird
That was his mistake

RDB

What if its underground?

Like we were talking about about a 100 posts ago?

Can you get a Lawful development certificate for that hobit hole idea?

Just to have permision to carry on living there after 4years?

seven-day-weekend

Planning law also applies to structures built underground.

Why do some people want him to 'get away with it'?

How would it be if everybody built wherever and whatever they wanted with no control?

Dinah93

Completely agree seven day weekend, if everyone built where they liked our entire country would be a mass of tarmac, shoddy design and a complete lack of needed facilities like schools and hospitals to service these sprawlled out homes. People get so worked up about wind turbines 'ruining' the landscape, then someone comes along and builds Disney Does History as a house, and it has support!

seven-day-weekend

Thank you Dinah. I too have worked in Town Planning until I took early retirement in 2004 - I worked in Enforcement, as a Technician.

In my experience there are always people who want to flaunt the rules and other people who say good on them if they do.

These are usually the very people who are the biggest NIMBY's* and complain like crazy if their neighbour puts a velux window in his roof.






* NIMBY -Not In My Back Yard

RDB

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

Planning law also applies to structures built underground.

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Thanks but what if they say the 4 years havent started because no one can see it, like they did with the hay bales around the Tudor castle?

All I have is a chimney, and some unobtrusive windows to let light and air in. These are very hard to spot with brambles and other types of plants.

The entrance is not visable from anywhere apart from being on my land. Even then you have to be right in front of it because it looks like a rabbit hole.

Its not finished yet, but I want to move in offcially soon and start building the 4 years of `proof` needed to get my lawful development certificate.

Any useful suggestions/comments welcome.


There is a big comunity online here http://www.ourhobbithole.com/ many people have built lovely underground homes since the Lord of the Rings films.

sabretoothtigger

Seriously? Very heat efficient I guess

crazygaijin

RDB wrote: »

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

Planning law also applies to structures built underground.

QUOTE]


Thanks but what if they say the 4 years havent started because no one can see it, like they did with the hay bales around the Tudor castle?

All I have is a chimney, and some unobtrusive windows to let light and air in. These are very hard to spot with brambles and other types of plants.

The entrance is not visable from anywhere apart from being on my land. Even then you have to be right in front of it because it looks like a rabbit hole.

Its not finished yet, but I want to move in offcially soon and start building the 4 years of `proof` needed to get my lawful development certificate.

Any useful suggestions/comments welcome.


There is a big comunity online here http://www.ourhobbithole.com/ many people have built lovely underground homes since the Lord of the Rings films.

I think the easiest way to get a quick and dirty hobbit hole would be to bury large inter-connected pieces of concrete pipes. I mean using huge water-drainage pipes that are 15 feet or more in diameter in various shapes, then sealing them together with pitch to make them water-tight and burying them underground. Then once the outer shell is completed, building a more cozy wooden interior. I'd probably want to build bookshelves and storage into the curved walls on the side, and a curved wooden ceiling to preserve the rounded shape.

Building a raised wooden floor with trapdoor access would allow you to run all your interior plumbing and wiring in the bottom curved portion of the pipe afterwards with easy access while creating a flat floor. You could probably even heat the air in the enclosed conduit so the floor would be warm and put in vents so the heat could rise up to warm the living quarters above.

I guess the main question would be how difficult it would be to cut the concrete piping, and figuring out how well structural integrity would be maintained depending on how many cuts you make for windows, doors, and skylights. I'd want a full lawn on top of the dirt covering the pipe to prevent erosion, but you'd probably have to be careful to keep trees or anything with strong root systems from developing, or they might crack the cement eventually.

Anyone else have ideas for a simple main structure?

SilverStandard

Sorry if its been asked before but, can you sell a house thats been built ilegally but that successfully has a lawful development certificate?

Say Mr Fidler was/is successful and got/gets his LDC could he sell his castle? Would the new buyer be allowed to live there?