How to defend this speeding fine?

silkyuk9

ozvaldinho wrote: »

Ignore most of what has been said on here so far, especially by the resident trolls.
You may well be prosecuted for failing to supply the details of the person driving at the time. I doubt very much you'll be prosecuted for the speeding or insurance issues. It's six points and a fine.
However, normally it would be the registered keeper of the car who is responsible for supplying the details of the driver. Isn't this your father in this case? It seems you've confused the case by admitting you were the driver.

Once you've cleared up the matter of who is legally responsible for identifying the driver at the time of the offence, then you need to prepare your defence: namely that you've tried your best to identify who was the driver at the time. You'll need all the evidence you can gather to support you: the photos from the camera, adverts, phone records, emails and anything else you can get your hands on. Put this all together and try to prove 'due diligence', that you've done everything reasonably pracicable to identify the driver. Maybe you could ask the police to look up his mobile number if you still have it?

You need a lawyer, some sympathetic magistrates and some good advice, the guys on Pepipoo are way more clued up than us. Liasing with the police to help identify the driver will greatly increase the chances of the case being dropped.

Good luck!

great advise is this, im sure you need to lok no further now. Thats the beauty of having a forum someone will know more about a subject than others and im sure this guy has hit the board here.

Good luck any way

Welshwoofs

ozvaldinho wrote: »

You need a lawyer, some sympathetic magistrates and some good advice, the guys on Pepipoo are way more clued up than us. Liasing with the police to help identify the driver will greatly increase the chances of the case being dropped.

Good luck!

Many thanks for this advice!

I do find it bemusing that one can get into so much trouble whilst basically doing nothing! It seems to me if it went back to the old method of a plod standing at the side of the road with a speed gun and pulling over speeding drivers then none of this business would happen. These are technicalities created by speed cameras alone.

What makes it even worse is that I know from the details that the place the car got caught on is actually a dual carriageway which has a speed limit of 50mph. The speed stated was 57mph and I know exactly where the police camera would have been hiding too because they do it almost every week. They hide a camera car on the 'old road' which runs parallel to the dual carriageway behind stands of trese so it's just tucked out of sight of passing motorists.

N.Wales police are absolutely reknowned for being sneaky little whatsits when it comes to hidden cameras.

amandada

Maybe I'm missing something, but if the driver was someone who contacted you via ebay, won't you be able to trace them through their ebay account?

hewhoisnotintheknow

Welshwoofs wrote: »

Many thanks for this advice!

I do find it bemusing that one can get into so much trouble whilst basically doing nothing! It seems to me if it went back to the old method of a plod standing at the side of the road with a speed gun and pulling over speeding drivers then none of this business would happen. These are technicalities created by speed cameras alone.

What makes it even worse is that I know from the details that the place the car got caught on is actually a dual carriageway which has a speed limit of 50mph. The speed stated was 57mph and I know exactly where the police camera would have been hiding too because they do it almost every week. They hide a camera car on the 'old road' which runs parallel to the dual carriageway behind stands of trese so it's just tucked out of sight of passing motorists.

N.Wales police are absolutely reknowned for being sneaky little whatsits when it comes to hidden cameras.

would only work if they stopped every car though

Welshwoofs

amandada wrote: »

Maybe I'm missing something, but if the driver was someone who contacted you via ebay, won't you be able to trace them through their ebay account?

I can't actually remember! It was on Ebay as a classified, but it was also up on Autotrader and Preloved at the same time and I had a ton of contacts about the car (it was a fairly unusual luxury car). I've trawled through my old Ebay contact messages and none of them talk about a visit to test drive on that particular date.