Neighbours and building over our boundary

Ian_Griffiths_Halifax

truman_sparks wrote: »

Do you live in a house or on it?

If you think decking is classed as part of your house you're a(insert space here)bit simple. Decking is laid in your garden and fitted UPTO your outside wall. It doesn't have a roof, you can't secure it, wall paper it nor will it shelter you from the rain.

Ring your house insurance company and ask them to add contents insurance to your decking.

Stop wasting everyone's time, you're just making yourself look stupid.

Total timewaster from the start for all those who took time to reply. If you had posted the facts in the first place you would have go a totally different set of replies, but YOU DIDN'T. So feel free to have the last word. I'm off to build an extension to my property, er I mean buy a shed and put it up next to the house, same thing tho'.

I'd give 6 out of 10 for effort. If you're going to slag somebody off for their intelligence, please take more care.

The OP only came on for some advice and as often happens on this site, they get ridiculed, when those doing the ridiculing don't have the full facts.

Before the thread has finished, I bet he finds out from some wise poster that the Vendor doesn't own the property and it's some elaborate selling scam. Not only that, but there's a body under the decking and they've undermined the house and they have 100 illegal imigrants living in what was HIS cellar!

truman_sparks

Ian_Griffiths_Halifax wrote: »

I'd give 6 out of 10 for effort. If you're going to slag somebody off for their intelligence, please take more care.

The OP only came on for some advice and as often happens on this site, they get ridiculed, when those doing the ridiculing don't have the full facts.

Before the thread has finished, I bet he finds out from some wise poster that the Vendor doesn't own the property and it's some elaborate selling scam. Not only that, but there's a body under the decking and they've undermined the house and they have 100 illegal imigrants living in what was HIS cellar!

Oh good the grammer police are here, how useful. and im not going to start going through my post spending any additional time to check the grammer, its not worthy of it on this board. It may have escaped your notice but in the real world people dont put too much emphasis on grammer when posting on message boards. More for the office that one. retired by any chance?

Dont stop their, Not only did we not have the full facts, the facts we had were wrong, why's that then? erm because thats what was written in the op. Shame on us.

Having dealt with planners, building regs and self builds, I know abit about what the problems might be, as others have tried to share in early posts of their experiences. Sadly they all wasted their time trying to help because the op was total rubbish and didnt distinguish what that the "house" was actually "Decking". The op only got "slagged off" as you put it as it turns out everyone who replyed totally wasted their time trying to help. Your obviously somone with too much time on your hands and need to do these things to help fill your day up.

So theres one of us who cant tell the difference between a house and some decking, one who doesnt take much time to check his grammer and one who spends time correcting other peoples grammer thinking it is an indicator of intellect. novel concept, did you invent it or someone else?

Back to your village before your missed,

Or are you intending to help the OP by answering her questions?

Enjoy your casual days, I'm too busy myself.

Ian_Griffiths_Halifax

truman_sparks wrote: »

Oh good the grammer police are here, how useful. and im not going to start going through my post spending any additional time to check the grammer, its not worthy of it on this board. It may have escaped your notice but in the real world people dont put too much emphasis on grammer when posting on message boards. More for the office that one. retired by any chance?

Dont stop their, Not only did we not have the full facts, the facts we had were wrong, why's that then? erm because thats what was written in the op. Shame on us.

Having dealt with planners, building regs and self builds, I know abit about what the problems might be, as others have tried to share in early posts of their experiences. Sadly they all wasted their time trying to help because the op was total rubbish and didnt distinguish what that the "house" was actually "Decking". The op only got "slagged off" as you put it as it turns out everyone who replyed totally wasted their time trying to help. Your obviously somone with too much time on your hands and need to do these things to help fill your day up.

So theres one of us who cant tell the difference between a house and some decking, one who doesnt take much time to check his grammer and one who spends time correcting other peoples grammer thinking it is an indicator of intellect. novel concept, did you invent it or someone else?

Back to your village before your missed,

Or are you intending to help the OP by answering her questions?

Enjoy your casual days, I'm too busy myself.

To the OP - there are many helpful people on these boards, but unfortunately you do get a high percentage of people who simply use these boards as a means to 'beat up' somebody who they wouldn't be able to in real life. Sad but true, the Keyboard Warriors live on.

milliemonster

Right, I haven't read a lot of the replies that seem to be getting into a slanging match for no good reason, but my best friend has had a similar issue this year, she has been in er house for 10 years now and has recently had an extension, her neighbours were unhappy that she was getting an extension (god knows why when they live on the opposite side to where she was having the extension) and started causing problems, my friend in the meantime (who works for the courts) decided to get hold of her deeds from the land registry and it turns out that her neighbours have actually stolen some of her drive from what was on the original deeds. Now, she has discussed this with the court where she works who have said that after all this time it is more or less now classed that her neighbour rightfully owns this extra land and its not really worth going to court over it and the land registry documents should be redrawn.

I realise that your situation is much more recent, at the end of the day leave this to your solicitor to sort out as that is what you are paying them for, I do think that legally they can't just take land but if it comes to it, are you prepared to go to court over this? it will be costly and I would not buy the house until it is rectified, but this in itself will cause you problems as it is going to drag out the whole process of your purchase if you wait, meaning you could lose your mortgage offer, massive solicitor bills etc.

Running_Horse

ohmochraich wrote: »

so decking that they BUILT ISNT classed as "part of their house"?
Funny - it is here! - and Im pretty sure the owners and builders would class it as that!
Does it only apply to decking - or do conservatories not get classed as part of a house?Do people sell it as part of their house - YES! - so therefor it IS part of their house!!!!

!!!!!! is your problem understanding that? - hardly a red herring - maybe a lack of explicit information - if I had realized that one person would get so het up about failing to mention what the part over the boundary was constructed from - I would have included it! - do you need to know the colour - Id hate to cause you any upset further down the line!

I didnt throw anyones advice back at them - I repeatedly said I wasnt looking for peoples opinions on my intellect - I was looking for any advice on the LEGALITY of taking someone elses land - as you would see if you read my posts PROPERLY!.
Quite frankly - i know the equity of the property AND what the local housing market is like - YOU dont! - You know what its like where you are - its unlikely to go into negative equity - 1) Im getting it cheap - 2) its in an area that prices have stayed (and are likely to stay) stable and 3) - I dont intend to buy and sell for a profit - i intend to live in it!

you seem to be the one obsessed with the intellect of a stranger - I couldn't give a toss what your opinion is - it isnt even remotely related to my original question.
You carry on slagging off strangers online - it obviously makes you feel clever! - i'll carry on regardless - thanks to all the helpful folks who actually replied constructively - and didnt try to appear "clever" by engaging in petty semantics.

So are you going ahead or not?

ohmochraich

Running horse - I have spoken to my solicitor who has been in touch with the sellers solicitor (got letter from them today) - the sellers solicitor has spoken to the neighbour and will get it in writing that the neighbour will move the bit thats over the boundary - failing that - the seller is going to reduce the price. As I am NOT of dubious intellect - (despite the overinflated opinions of the stranger bashers who unfortunately frequent the board) - Im not buying until some sort of agreement is reached. The seller is planning to come up to see the neighbour to see if it can be sorted out quickly. I will post back when there are any developments.;)

Truman sparks - the reason I "couldnt tell the difference" between decking and the actual house was as the whole package is sold together and bought together I would have thought it is all included together - in the same way as buying a house with a conservatory or a house with a garage is - people here dont pack up their decking when they leave - and as it is fixed to the ground and also fixed onto the outside of the house (no I dont know what with but i do know it IS fixed!) i would assume it is also classed as part of it! FYI - the decking structure DOES have a wooden roof - so yes they could live IN it if they wanted to - only there are no walls! so it might be a bit breezy- does a roof mean it IS now classed as PART of their house?

Im sure theres a fancy name for the structure - but like I said - to me its wooden decking - Im not a property expert or a building expert - or an architect - so i have no idea what its called - does that make me an idiot? - or of subnormal intellect? - if you think it does - that says much more about you than me.

I am a FTB - Im NOT a property OR Legal expert - which is why I came here looking for advice - NOT abuse - or the unrequested and totally unwarranted opinion of strangers on what THEY believe to be my intellect. All of this based on 3 or 4 postings on a forum taken out of the context of anything else (when i am the first to admit Im a total novice and clueless about property or land law) I am actually paid very well on the basis of my intellect - I have 3 higher degrees - but NONE of these are in property or land law - had they been I obviously wouldn't have come onto the forum looking for help from people more versed in this area!

I wouldn't attempt brain surgery - but thats because I know I'm not versed or experienced in that particular area - does that mean its a free for all now and random strangers can belittle me and verbally abuse me online and cast aspersions about their opinions of my "supposed intellect". Shame on you.

Thank you to Milliemonster and Ian Griffiths Halifax for your replies.
I'm female BTW

Ian_Griffiths_Halifax

ohmochraich wrote: »

I am a FTB - Im NOT a property OR Legal expert - which is why I came here looking for advice - NOT abuse - or the unrequested and totally unwarranted opinion of strangers on what THEY believe to be my intellect. All of this based on 3 or 4 postings on a forum taken out of the context of anything else (when i am the first to admit Im a total novice and clueless about property or land law) I am actually paid very well on the basis of my intellect - I have 3 higher degrees - but NONE of these are in property or land law - had they been I obviously wouldn't have come onto the forum looking for help from people more versed in this area!

I wouldn't attempt brain surgery - but thats because I know I'm not versed or experienced in that particular area - does that mean its a free for all now and random strangers can belittle me and verbally abuse me online and cast aspersions about their opinions of my "supposed intellect". Shame on you.

Thank you to Milliemonster and Ian Griffiths Halifax for your replies.
I'm female BTW

You have no right coming on here when you are not a Property or Law expert. Go away and read up on a few websites and become an overnight expert and then you can come back.

Oh, and read a few of Martin Lewis' posts and suddenly you'll know all there is to know about anything that's worth knowing. Why not buy a copy of his new book?

JayZed

ohmochraich wrote: »

I have spoken to my solicitor who has been in touch with the sellers solicitor (got letter from them today) - the sellers solicitor has spoken to the neighbour and will get it in writing that the neighbour will move the bit thats over the boundary - failing that - the seller is going to reduce the price.

I don't think that this is sufficient to protect your interests. You need one of following two things to happen:

1) the neighbour dismantles the relevant structure and restores the boundary fence before you buy the property. Then you can buy at the price you've agreed.

2) the seller comes to an agreement with the neighbour and they register the new property boundary with the Scottish Land Registry, likewise before you buy the property. Then you and the seller agree a suitable price.

If neither of these things happens, you need to walk away. I know you don't want to hear that, but if you leave yourself exposed to a boundary dispute, you will regret it. My father and his partner have been embroiled in a similar sitation with their expansionist neighbour, and it's caused years of stress, expense and legal headaches.

Bottom line: this is the seller's problem and she needs to resolve it before she sells the property. Providing assurances from the neighbour is not sufficient.

boyse7en

If it is just a bit of decking, can't the neighbors just reshape it or cut the bit off that is on the land that will be yours? All this dealing with solicitors and buying and selling of small pieces of land seems an almighty faff when about 20secs with a chainsaw will resolve the problem (although it would probably start the mother of all neighbor disputes!)

poppysarah

Decking or bricks?
The point is the same - you have to fall out with neighbours to get them to remove it.

They don't see it as a problem else they wouldn't have done it.