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Periodic Inspection Report needed?

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  • keystone
    keystone Posts: 10,916 Forumite
    neil277 wrote: »
    HIPS WERE SUSPENDED but part p is still in force
    Yes I know that. I was specifically referring to your paragraph about HIPs.
    , and before anyone hires an electrician always telephone http://niceic.com/
    http://www.napit.org.uk/
    http://www.elecsa.co.uk/householder.aspx
    http://www.eca.co.uk/
    http://www.bsigroup.com/

    theses companies to make sure the ELECTRICIAN is registered.
    Unless you are in Scotland when these guys you cite won't have a clue.

    Cheers
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. - Einstein
  • zax47
    zax47 Posts: 1,263 Forumite
    edited 14 November 2010 at 9:59PM
    neil277 wrote: »
    HIPS WERE SUSPENDED but part p is still in force, and before anyone hires an electrician always telephone http://niceic.com/
    http://www.napit.org.uk/
    http://www.elecsa.co.uk/householder.aspx
    http://www.eca.co.uk/
    http://www.bsigroup.com/

    Or look at;

    http://www.competentperson.co.uk where all Part P registration scheme details are listed.

    Of course in Scotland, where Part P doesn't exist, then it's SELECT you need.

    http://www.select.org.uk/

    FWIW, Here in Yorkshire I typically charge ~£125 for a 3 bed-semi PIR, includes half a day of inspection/test (3-4 hrs min.)

    Get 3 quotes. Half an hour's visual inspection is worthless!

    Oh and a PIR form is BLUE.
  • neil277 wrote: »
    Any electrician who is registered as PART P must issue A RED CERTIFICATE, IF YOU ARE ISSUED A GREEN CERTIFICATE THEN YOUR ELECTRICIAN IS NOT PART P.

    Contact http://niceic.com/
    http://www.napit.org.uk/
    http://www.elecsa.co.uk/householder.aspx
    http://www.eca.co.uk/
    http://www.bsigroup.com/

    Before any work is carried out

    Thanks

    Neil Allen
    All the above will issue you with a certificate of compliance for the work carried out and we also update your local authority's records. This will help you with future house sale issues and may be required by future extensions of the home information pack. That will be sent to you by post to confirm the work has been done.

    Part P does not apply to Scotland, and the colour of the certificate is a NICIEC myth

    What is more important is that the person carrying out the inspection is compotent;
    see below
    You should use a competent person for the work, links below
    In Scotland:
    Individuals registered;
    http://www.sbsa.gov.uk/register/ListAC.asp
    Companies
    http://www.sbsa.gov.uk/register/SearchRegCo.asp?T=Construction
    In England and Wales:
    http://www.competentperson.co.uk
    baldly going on...
  • "it seems that the valuer will always advise of this just to cover his back.

    well i used the reports to knock £4k off the asking prices as the seller agreed the electrics needed work and the boiler controls weren;t up to standard."


    Poor old surveyor!

    He gives you advice - he's just 'covering his back'. And then you get £4k off the price.

    Sometimes I wonder if the public deserve us .........
  • booty40uk
    booty40uk Posts: 514 Forumite
    Jeez.............i hate spam.
  • Anybody doing a PIR inspection in 1 hour or simply charging £75 is not doing or going to be doing the inspection as per requirements.

    The Periodic Inspection Form can be found in BS7671 IET Wiring Regulation and are standard documents. Regardless of colour the forms that are issued via the likes of NICEIC or alike will state that the form is based on the model shown is BS7671:2008. You do NEED a competent person to conduct the inspection who understands the wiring regulations and its use.

    For a periodic inspection with no previous inspection reports then full testing needs to be conducted with continuity of conductors, Insulation resistance, Ze, Zs, RCD trip times and so on. All of this takes time and for you then have a decent report that outlines the electrical installation.

    Simply looking at a few sockets, doing a visual with limited testing is simply not worth the paper or your money - especially if something goes wrong later and that's the reason why you asked for the inspection in the first place.
  • fluffpot wrote: »
    You get what you pay for and for £75 you wouldn't get much as the bald one has already said. I tend to allow around a day for full PIR (Periodic Inspection Report) on a mid sized property as it involves full test of all circuits, need to unplug all items of electrical equipment, removing all light bulbs (and putting them back in), working around owners ornaments, investigating faults, opening up a % of sockets and switches etc etc. Plus paperwork and full list of recommended remedial works (I've never done one that passed)

    If your fuse board is the old rewireable fuse type and/or has no RCD and you have have outside space access, it will almost certainly fail. However, having the full tests performed will give more info about your cables, which might be OK, in which case just a fuse board upgrade required.

    Hope this helps. I'm an electrician BTW based in London and the rates you have been given seem very reasonable to me if for a full PIR

    fluff, your info about a ccu having to be upgraded is wrong and you shouln't be stating that, 17th edition states, 17th edition wiring should be rcd protected, if an old installation has cartrige fuses or what ever, it does not need to be upgraded, its a recomenation not and fail.
  • DVardysShadow
    DVardysShadow Posts: 18,949 Forumite
    phill99 wrote: »
    This is the second spam post you have done.

    Reported
    And I am reluctantly marking yours as spam, because you repeat the spam including all contact details
    Hi, we’ve had to remove your signature. If you’re not sure why please read the forum rules or email the forum team if you’re still unsure - MSE ForumTeam
  • fluffpot
    fluffpot Posts: 1,264 Forumite
    Terrance - what about socket outlets which can supply equipment outside the equipotential zone then???
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