Periodic Inspection Report needed?

peaz

Hi

We live in SE London and are selling a 2 bed property, just over 100 years. The survey recommended that the seller has the electrics checked over. She wants us to pay for this- not happy about but they have us by the short and curlies. We've already reduced the offer due to the survey, AND we are paying their stamp duty. The survey has brought up other issues- damp proofing needed at a cost of £400, and a drain problem. Not sure if she wants us to pay for this but as we are also buying a property we have a lot of expenses to consider.

I am guessing they are asking for a Periodic Inspection Report? If so, how much does this cost, what does it entail and how long should it take? And, worse case scenario, what kind of cost are we looking at if it needs rewiring? Have lived here two years, and not had any electrical work done so no idea as to the state of it.

Forgot to say- have had two quotes so far- £120 and £195. Both came recommended but the person who recommended the £120 guy said he charges £120 for 3 bed properties so was hoping he would come out less.
TIA
xxx

mikey72

Just had one done on a 2 bed terrace I let. £75, in the midlands.
Visual inspection, and several checks in the fusebox, and a few sockets around the house.
Took just over an hour.
As to the rewire, what type of fusebox is fitted?

baldelectrician

mikey72 wrote: »

Just had one done on a 2 bed terrace I let. £75, in the midlands.
Visual inspection, and several checks in the fusebox, and a few sockets around the house.
Took just over an hour.
As to the rewire, what type of fusebox is fitted?

A visual check is very limited- a bit like a drive by survey.

A periodic inspection should take a few hours. It depends on the access in the property etc

If there are issues then more searching will happen.

The PIR should be carried out by a compotent person (see below), and it may cost £2000+ for a flat rewire,

peaz

Thanks for the replies. The guy said it would take about 3 hours. When looking at the fuse box. how do I know what type it is?

mikey72

Periodic inspection on my 2 bed terrace, to be technical then,
on
TT system, (earth electrode) 5 mcb's (lights, ring main, radial to kitchen on a 20A mcb, cooker, smoke alarm) + RCD,
supply check, visual for damage and conductor size, continuity, insulation resistance, polarity, earth loop impedence, RCD time.
Easy access, wired to the 16th edition, time on site 1 hour, then office time for the paperwork, £75.
If he takes more than one hour for this job he's not working fast enough.

fluffpot

You get what you pay for and for £75 you wouldn't get much as the bald one has already said. I tend to allow around a day for full PIR (Periodic Inspection Report) on a mid sized property as it involves full test of all circuits, need to unplug all items of electrical equipment, removing all light bulbs (and putting them back in), working around owners ornaments, investigating faults, opening up a % of sockets and switches etc etc. Plus paperwork and full list of recommended remedial works (I've never done one that passed)

If your fuse board is the old rewireable fuse type and/or has no RCD and you have have outside space access, it will almost certainly fail. However, having the full tests performed will give more info about your cables, which might be OK, in which case just a fuse board upgrade required.

Hope this helps. I'm an electrician BTW based in London and the rates you have been given seem very reasonable to me if for a full PIR

tonytee

what is the number of the guy who does the gas certificates please? many thanks

tonytee

just remembered this thread. i too was advised to get a periodic inspection report and a gas safety certificate done for a property i was buying.

it seems that the valuer will always advise of this just to cover his back.

well i used the reports to knock £4k off the asking prices as the seller agreed the electrics needed work and the boiler controls weren;t up to standard.

at £60 for the gas safety certificate
and £135 for the periodic inspection report its well worth the money - even if nothing is found at leat you have peice of mind incase of fire, etc etc. there are lots of properties whose wiring has never been touched

neil277

Any electrician who is registered as PART P must issue A RED CERTIFICATE, IF YOU ARE ISSUED A GREEN CERTIFICATE THEN YOUR ELECTRICIAN IS NOT PART P.

Contact http://niceic.com/
http://www.napit.org.uk/
http://www.elecsa.co.uk/householder.aspx
http://www.eca.co.uk/
http://www.bsigroup.com/

Before any work is carried out

Thanks

Neil Allen
All the above will issue you with a certificate of compliance for the work carried out and we also update your local authority's records. This will help you with future house sale issues and may be required by future extensions of the home information pack. That will be sent to you by post to confirm the work has been done.

keystone

All the above will issue you with a certificate of compliance for the work carried out and we also update your local authority's records. This will help you with future house sale issues and may be required by future extensions of the home information pack. That will be sent to you by post to confirm the work has been done.

Is this a cut/paste from somewhere else? HIPS were suspended as one of the first actions of the current government and the only reason they haven't been dumped altogether is that it requires enabling legislation to do so.

Cheers

neil277

keystone wrote: »

Is this a cut/paste from somewhere else? HIPS were suspended as one of the first actions of the current government and the only reason they haven't been dumped altogether is that it requires enabling legislation to do so.

Cheers

HIPS WERE SUSPENDED but part p is still in force, and before anyone hires an electrician always telephone http://niceic.com/
http://www.napit.org.uk/
http://www.elecsa.co.uk/householder.aspx
http://www.eca.co.uk/
http://www.bsigroup.com/

theses companies to make sure the ELECTRICIAN is registered. Red certificate is the one all theses companies use, if GREEN contact the above straight away SAFETY FIRST ELECTRICITY CAN KILL.

Thanks

Neil Allen