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  • Hi,have recently recieved a "parking notice charge" from a firm called uk cps ltd.My husband parked in a disabled bay in a b&q car park,not clever i know but my question is am i legallly bound as the vehicles registered keeper to pay this charge & indeed are these disabled bays in supermarkets 'legally enforceable' as with council roads & such?...
  • peter_the_piper
    peter_the_piper Posts: 30,269 Forumite
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    Please use the search button for the many posts regarding private parking companies and then you will see that all you need to do is ignore them.
    Don't phone
    Don't contact
    Don't Pay anything
    Don't bother appealing.
    Any painting of bays on private land is just that, painting. They have(in England) no legal status.
    I'd rather be an Optimist and be proved wrong than a Pessimist and be proved right.
  • bargepole
    bargepole Posts: 3,237 Forumite
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    Hi,have recently recieved a "parking notice charge" from a firm called uk cps ltd.
    Well known on these boards - search and you'll find threads on them.

    My husband parked in a disabled bay in a b&q car park
    ,not clever i know but my question is am i legallly bound as the vehicles registered keeper to pay this charge & indeed are these disabled bays in supermarkets 'legally enforceable' as with council roads & such?..
    Disabled bays have no legal standing in private car parks. The registered keeper has no liability at all, they can only pursue the driver for breach of alleged contract. And if you never communicate with them, and ignore all their rubbish threatening letters, they won't know who that is.

    I have been providing assistance, including Lay Representation at Court hearings (current score: won 57, lost 14), to defendants in parking cases for over 5 years. I have an LLB (Hons) degree, and have a Graduate Diploma in Civil Litigation from CILEx. However, any advice given on these forums by me is NOT formal legal advice, and I accept no liability for its accuracy.
  • bargepole

    Just a word of warning about Scot's law being different. Yellow painted (rather than white) disabled bays are "legally enforceable" including supermarket carparks etc. The law was introduced just over a year ago. I dont know how it works in practice ie who would issue the ticket in the supermarket carpark? PPC or traffic warden? I will investigate.
  • Further to my post above, it appears that it's the PPC attendant who actually issues the "fine". I would post the link, but this site won't let me because I'm still a "Newbie", but type "disabled parking bays scotland" into google and scroll down to the Evening Times article entitled "30 caught in disabled parking bay area crackdown".

    So, I am not sure whether it is legally enforceable or not ie would a traffic warden have the right to issue a proper fine? Obviously the PPC attendant is still powerless.
  • adouglasmhor
    adouglasmhor Posts: 15,554 Forumite
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    Scottish ones are only enforceable if the spaces are adopted by a local council. PPCs can still do an impression of a pelican and stick their bills up their behinds.
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  • cloud_dog
    cloud_dog Posts: 6,326 Forumite
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    I have read the forum and stickies so am aware of the process but wanted to ask opinions anyway....

    Parked in a NCP car park, it appears to be NCP/private rather than council owned, and received a PCN for not displaying a valid parking ticket.

    I did purchase one and it was in the car although it may have been right at the front of the windscreen so may not have been obvious but, even so..... I have a valid ticket for the period involved.

    I am aware that I can ignore the ticket and let the process run its course but was wondering if people feel it would be worthwhile appealing, providing an image of the purchased ticket, i.e. what are the chances of success or would people recommend this as a starting point.

    The reason I ask is that whilst I'm more than comfortable with managing the process, I'd rather not have to put my wife through any hassle should 'they' start ringing or visitng.

    For example do NCP take photographic evidence of the offence???

    Thoughts please....
    Personal Responsibility - Sad but True :D

    Sometimes.... I am like a dog with a bone
  • trisontana
    trisontana Posts: 9,472 Forumite
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    No just ignore. You have not committed any "offence" because you have not broken any laws. They are just some "rules" made up by the parking company. It will be a very unlikely they will call you or turn up at your door. If they don't make an appointment for that visit then they are in breach of the Consumer Credit Act.
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
  • Orford
    Orford Posts: 2,199 Forumite
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    trisontana wrote: »
    If they don't make an appointment for that visit then they are in breach of the Consumer Credit Act.
    Eh? Since when did NCP offer consumer credit? They don't seem to have a Consumer Credit licence, so if they do, they're in even more trouble :D
  • trisontana
    trisontana Posts: 9,472 Forumite
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    Orford wrote: »
    Eh? Since when did NCP offer consumer credit? They don't seem to have a Consumer Credit licence, so if they do, they're in even more trouble :D

    Don't they usually pass them on to dodgy debt collectors who actually might have a CC licence?
    What part of "A whop bop-a-lu a whop bam boo" don't you understand?
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