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EA won't let me view rented property for sale
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It shouldnt be news to you - you are a Human and surely have enough empathy with others to understand how your actions imphinge upon thier life.
Now, can I 'pop' round and camp in your garden tonight please.
Take it easy. I still find it surprising a landlord is not able to show buyers around a property he is trying to sell because of tenants. It's not about empathy, it's a legal matter.You are right, the vendor has not thought this through. But don't go direct to the tenant, always through the Agent. Otherwise you could raise an almighty stink, which you might never see anything of, apart from becoming persona non grata with the vendor and the agent.
Of course. Wouldn't do it any other way.
Sorry, I did mean via the EA I should have made that clear..It was in response toPasturesNew wrote: »What if:
- they are aggressive and hate you, the landlord and the agent?
- they consider you have breached their right for quiet enjoyment and cause a stink for the agent/landlord?
- they don't even KNOW it's for sale?
You trying to circumvent the proper channels and the legal channels in this way wouldn't bode well for a fruitful relationship going forward with any of the parties.About your only option is to tell Agent that you will offer tenant a viewing fee. Tricky to suggest how much, but I reckon most tenants would budge at £50 - or £100 for several viewings from 1 prospective buyer.0 -
Thanks for all of the replies. I had always assumed the landlord only needed to give 24 hours notice, so this is all news to me.
I will try to think of a diplomatic approach with the tenants so I am able to view the property.
I guess the bottom line is, the vendor hasnt really thought this through.
It's really not your problem Dudes. If the owner of the house wants to sell it then it's for him to make the arrangements for you to view it, and up to him to negotiate with his tenants to enable that to happen.
If he can't do that then he can't sell the house.
Just communicate with the estate agent that they need to tell their vendor that they have a serious potential buyer but, not unreasonably, they need to arrange viewing.
If they cannot or will not do that then the house is not up for sale. Simple.Hi, we’ve had to remove your signature. If you’re not sure why please read the forum rules or email the forum team if you’re still unsure - MSE ForumTeam0 -
It shouldnt be news to you - you are a Human and surely have enough empathy with others to understand how your actions imphinge upon thier life.
Now, can I 'pop' round and camp in your garden tonight please.
What a bizarre post. The house is on the market, Dudes wants to view. You claim to be a mortgage advisor, I'm sure you can therefore understand that?
It's up to the vendor to negotiate access with his tenants, it has nothing to do with Dudes "empathy". He just wants to look at a house that is for sale. Not an unreasonable request surely?Hi, we’ve had to remove your signature. If you’re not sure why please read the forum rules or email the forum team if you’re still unsure - MSE ForumTeam0 -
Yes, it is an unreasonable request. The tenants have no obligation in law to allow potential buyers to view the property. The EA has told OP that they cannot view the property, so we must presume that the landlord/purchaser has been unable to come to an amicable agreement with the tenants about this. Which means that, in reality, the house is only available for sale to another potential landlord who just wants a house with a tenant. Either that, or to a cash purchaser who is prepared to buy without viewing in return for a much reduced asking price. Someone needing a mortgage won't get very far unless the surveyor can gain entry, which sounds unlikely.I'm a retired employment solicitor. Hopefully some of my comments might be useful, but they are only my opinion and not intended as legal advice.0
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Max_Headroom wrote: »What a bizarre post. The house is on the market, Dudes wants to view. You claim to be a mortgage advisor, I'm sure you can therefore understand that?
It's up to the vendor to negotiate access with his tenants, it has nothing to do with Dudes "empathy". He just wants to look at a house that is for sale. Not an unreasonable request surely?
Agree. Can't believe the pops being taken against the OP for wanting to view a house which is listed as being for sale!! It shouldn't be on the market if not available to view for 4 months, and the OP has a right to be miffed. It is the EA and vendor at fault here.
"Life is difficult. Life is a series of problems. What makes life difficult is that the process of confronting and solving problems is a painful one." M Scott Peck. The Road Less Travelled.0 -
Of course you can camp in his garden. If you get caught short in the middle of the night, you can knock on his door and he will let you use the toilet.It shouldnt be news to you - you are a Human and surely have enough empathy with others to understand how your actions imphinge upon thier life.
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zzzLazyDaisy wrote: »Yes, it is an unreasonable request. The tenants have no obligation in law to allow potential buyers to view the property. The EA has told OP that they cannot view the property, so we must presume that the landlord/purchaser has been unable to come to an amicable agreement with the tenants about this. Which means that, in reality, the house is only available for sale to another potential landlord who just wants a house with a tenant. Either that, or to a cash purchaser who is prepared to buy without viewing in return for a much reduced asking price. Someone needing a mortgage won't get very far unless the surveyor can gain entry, which sounds unlikely.
No, it is not an unreasonable request to want to view a house that is on the market for sale, it is probably the single most reasonable request there is.
If there are factors preventing this (unwilling tenants for example) than that is up to the vendor to sort out, it's his responsibility. If he can't, then the house is effectively unsellable. Even another landlord isn't going to buy sight unseen, unless he's very stupid and most of those have been, bought, and gone.
You can consider it unreasonable for the tenants to be expected to allow viewing if you wish, but that is a matter between the owner and the tenants.
The desire to see something before you buy it is pretty much item 1, page 1 on any potential buyers list of requirements. It's a sensible and fair request.
Hard to see why everyone's coming down on the OP on this one.
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Agree. Can't believe the pops being taken against the OP for wanting to view a house which is listed as being for sale!! It shouldn't be on the market if not available to view for 4 months, and the OP has a right to be miffed. It is the EA and vendor at fault here.
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Take it easy. I still find it surprising a landlord is not able to show buyers around a property he is trying to sell because of tenants. It's not about empathy, it's a legal matter.
Yes.
It is a legal matter.
Which is why a person renting a property is entitled to quiet enjoyment of that property and is not at the mercy of every whim of the landlord wrt bringing strangers over.
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Max_Headroom wrote: »No, it is not an unreasonable request to want to view a house that is on the market for sale, it is probably the single most reasonable request there is.
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Hard to see why everyone's coming down on the OP on this one.
I think people are stunned by the OPs surprise that the tenants might have any say in the matter.0
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