Mr Average Gets a Free House In His Lifetime That Ms Average Doesn't

SingleSue

amcluesent wrote: »

Women don't need to work to get a house. They just get hubby to slog away at the office, quick divorce as the 'wronged woman' and she's got the house for free.

Hmmmm

It was the other way around for me....I outearned (by 3 times minumum) and put in more hours than my husband.

Unfortunately (or fortunately which ever way you look at it), there was no house involved when we divorced, so no free house here.

Oh and I was a wronged woman.....he slept with my best friend! :mad:

Equal rights is another thing that always gets my gander up and is the one thing myself and my father will argue about. He is the sort of man who believes that woman should never wear trousers, should stay at home with the children and not have any awareness of the finances.

My main interest is a male dominated sport - there are very few female website owners involved, my first job was extremely male dominated (worked in a fairground at age 15!), I am more likely to be found watching sport than shopping and I just love pushing the boundaries and showing I can do a job just as well as any bloke (in my sector of course).

That said, I am still very female in my appearance.

Oh and my official retirement age is 65.

olly300

SingleSue wrote: »

Unfortunately not a crock of the brown stuff.

Ok this is going back a few years but it happened to me.....office junior (male), not been with the company long and was a bit eek for turning up on time and had countless days off due to hangovers. Me, always arriving early and very few missed days of work (even turning up on crutches despite being given 14 days medical certificate) and more responsibility.

Bonus time comes (they were part of our contract)....the junior got 3 times the bonus as me and the other female non managerial member, when we asked for clarification on how it was worked out (work performace etc), the answer was because he was male (at that time, it was a fairly male dominated sector, females tended to be in the tea making, secretary sort of line but we were not).

We disputed it and quoted various equality laws and our bonuses were increased in line.

Single Sue you are wasting your time dicussing this with males who aren't affected by any discrimination until they get above 40.

Once they reach that age and have been made redundant/passed over for promotion they then understand what women without children and others have been complaining about for years.

Oh and while it's illegal to ask women if they have children without asking males I find it interesting that employers still ask. They obviously don't realise that candidates talk to each other.

Gorgeous_George

There was a time when men worked as the main breadwinner and women (generalising terribly) worked for pin money. The man's wage was sufficient to support his family. Houses were priced accordingly.

Then came women's lib and equal opprortunities.

Employers were forced to pay men and women equally. The employer had the same funds availble as before so men's pay fell to allow for the justifiable claims for equal pay that women demanded.

Working couples could afford to pay more for their houses and this, along with a number of other factors, fuelled HPI. The woman's biological time bomb ticked away until she became pregnant.

Employers cannot afford to pay women while they take time off for maternity leave without reducing the pay of every employee accordingly. Couples cannot afford to pay their mortgage on the newly inflated house prices while maintaining their pre-child lifestyles. Divorce rates rocket.

Increasing divorces lead to the need for more homes. Fuelling HPI and the cycle continues.

In general, working people need to 'marry' other working people in order to afford a house. Having children costs them financially and emotionally. More children = less money and a love nest becoming cramped.

Unemployed people 'marry' other unemployed people and become a burden on society through the over-generous benefits system. Taxes rise. More children = higher benefits and a bigger council house.

It is Darwin's Theory of Evolution in reverse.

Apologies if I have failed to generalise sufficiently.

GG

StevieJ

skap7309 wrote: »

When my car insurance is on equal terms without women only companies, i can retire at 60, i can go swimming without women only classes, then we will talk. :rotfl:

Could somebody explain why women received state pension at 60 (when they actually live longer, on average). Ironically, now the age when male/female die is closing, the female retirement age is going up.
I personally have never worked in a place where the pay was not equal, in fact of late it is the opposite as positions higher up the organisation have used positive discrimination ( for race as well) to increase the %.

Gorgeous_George

StevieJ wrote: »

Could somebody explain why women received state pension at 60 (when they actually live longer, on average). Ironically, now the age when male/female die is closing, the female retirement age is going up.
I personally have never worked in a place where the pay was not equal, in fact of late it is the opposite as positions higher up the organisation have used positive discrimination ( for race as well) to increase the %.

I hope that they used Positive Action.

GG

neverdespairgirl

amcluesent wrote: »

Women don't need to work to get a house. They just get hubby to slog away at the office, quick divorce as the 'wronged woman' and she's got the house for free.

Women actually tend to do worse out of divorce than men do.

"Men will moan like crazy when they get divorced," said Mr Stephens.
"Their main concern being, in generic terms, the fact that they will have to buy a new home.
"There is also the emotional pain of being separated from their children.
"But once they have passed that stage, quite often people will find a divorce is the best economic investment they ever made."


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3065227.stm

neverdespairgirl

skap7309 wrote: »

When my car insurance is on equal terms without women only companies, i can retire at 60, i can go swimming without women only classes, then we will talk. :rotfl:

WOmen's retirement age is going up.

SingleSue

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

Women actually tend to do worse out of divorce than men do.

"Men will moan like crazy when they get divorced," said Mr Stephens.
"Their main concern being, in generic terms, the fact that they will have to buy a new home.
"There is also the emotional pain of being separated from their children.
"But once they have passed that stage, quite often people will find a divorce is the best economic investment they ever made."


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3065227.stm

Well my ex hubby has done very well out of it!

Weekends and holidays away without children to ruin it, able to work in whatever he likes and not have to worry about having to do a job to suit a family and can go out and about to the pub etc.

I had to give up my career and effectively my life.

All the hard work at school gaining the qualifications, all the hours put in building up my career and what am I now ? A single parent on benefits seen as completely braindead by the majority of society.

I am being defined by what I am now and not what I have done.

Gorgeous_George

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

Women actually tend to do worse out of divorce than men do.

There speaks a female lawyer.



GG

Gorgeous_George

Bristol Boys Club is under pressure to change its name and encourage more girlie members.

No such pressure on the Women's Institue.

GG