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Desperate for Advice

Hello everyone

I've made many many bad decision which have left me with a mountain of debt.

Collectively, I'm looking at over 100k and that doesn't include my mortgage.

I am desperate to try to set things right, but I can't image where to start.

I've not reached a point where I am defaulting on payments, but my outgoings are now more than I make, and I've depleted my credit cards by trying to shuffle money around.

I'm thinking of perhaps getting a second job, but it will have to be outside of my regular working hours of 8.30 - 17.00.

Can anyone please give me some advise on this?

Thanks
Spendy
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  • whitewing
    whitewing Posts: 11,852 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    Hi Spendy,

    An SOA (statement of affairs) will be helpful - see the sticky on the debt free wannabe board.
    :heartsmil When you find people who not only tolerate your quirks but celebrate them with glad cries of "Me too!" be sure to cherish them. Because these weirdos are your true family.
  • 10past6
    10past6 Posts: 4,962 Forumite
    A good place to start spendy would be to click here and complete your SOA (Statement of Affairs)
    Click here for Martins (MSE) advice on who to contact with Debt Issues - YOU HAVE NO REASON TO USE A FEE PAYING DEBT MANAGEMENT COMPANY- THEY CANNOT DO ANYMORE FOR YOU THAN THOSE LISTED IN MY LINK ABOVE.

    All information given by myself is offered informally and without prejudice - if in doubt seek help from a qualified and insured professional
  • Jesthar
    Jesthar Posts: 1,450 Forumite
    Hi spendy,

    Welcome to the forum! :)

    Given the time of night it may be starting to get quieter around here, but I'll get the ball rolling - can you please post up a full Statement of Affairs using the following link:

    http://www.makesenseofcards.com/soacalc.html

    If you use the 'MSE' button in the 'Format results for discussion board' section neat the botton, you'll be able to copy and paste it straight into a post here. Then the lovely people on the forum can take a good look and give you some advice :)

    ~Jes :)
    Never underestimate the power of the techno-geek... ;)
  • spendy
    spendy Posts: 61 Forumite
    Thanks everyone for the replies.

    I have done an SOA, but unfortunately, my circumstances are ... different ... my other half pays certain bills, and those haven't been included.

    As you can see my outgoings exceed my incomings, but annual expenses are usually dealt with as and when they come up.

    Please let me know if I've done something wrong.

    Thanks again
    ________________________________________________________________

    Monthly income after tax................ 1550
    Partners monthly income after tax....... 0
    Benefits................................ 75
    Other income............................ 0
    Total monthly income.................... 1625


    Monthly Expense Details
    Mortgage................................ 340
    Secured loan repayments................. 880
    Rent.................................... 0
    Management charge (leasehold property).. 0
    Council tax............................. 0
    Electricity............................. 0
    Gas..................................... 0
    Oil..................................... 0
    Water rates............................. 0
    Telephone (land line)................... 35
    Mobile phone............................ 45
    TV Licence.............................. 13
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 30
    Internet Services....................... 12
    Groceries etc. ......................... 20
    Clothing................................ 0
    Petrol/diesel........................... 50
    Road tax................................ 9
    Car Insurance........................... 25
    Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 0
    Car parking............................. 0
    Other travel............................ 0
    Childcare/nursery....................... 100
    Other child related expenses............ 40
    Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 0
    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 0
    Buildings insurance..................... 17
    Contents insurance...................... 15
    Life assurance ......................... 15
    Other insurance......................... 0
    Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 0
    Haircuts................................ 0
    Entertainment........................... 0
    Holiday................................. 0
    Emergency fund.......................... 0
    Total monthly expenses.................. 1646


    Assets
    Cash.................................... 0
    House value (Gross)..................... 0
    Shares and bonds........................ 0
    Car(s).................................. 1000
    Other assets............................ 0
    Total Assets............................ 1000


    Secured Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Mortgage...................... 0........(340)......0
    Secured Debt.................. 85000....(880)......9
    Total secured debts........... 85000.....-.........-


    Unsecured Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Credit Card....................7700......172.......0
    Credit Card....................4200......130.......0
    Store Card.....................140.......12........0
    Total unsecured debts..........12040.....314.......-


    Monthly Budget Summary
    Total monthly income.................... 1,625
    Expenses (including secured debts)....... 1,646
    Available for debt repayments........... -21
    Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 314
    Surplus(deficit if negative)............ -335


    Personal Balance Sheet Summary
    Total assets (things you own)........... 1,000
    Total Secured debt...................... -85,000
    Total Unsecured debt.................... -12,040
    Net Assets.............................. -96,040
  • Jesthar
    Jesthar Posts: 1,450 Forumite
    Thanks, spendy!

    Let's have a look...
    spendy wrote: »
    Thanks everyone for the replies.

    I have done an SOA, but unfortunately, my circumstances are ... different ... my other half pays certain bills, and those haven't been included.

    As you can see my outgoings exceed my incomings, but annual expenses are usually dealt with as and when they come up.

    Please let me know if I've done something wrong.

    Thanks again
    ________________________________________________________________

    Monthly income after tax................ 1550
    Partners monthly income after tax....... 0
    Benefits................................ 75
    Other income............................ 0
    Total monthly income.................... 1625


    Monthly Expense Details
    Mortgage................................ 340
    Secured loan repayments................. 880 Ouch! :eek: This is the one causing the damage, that's over half your income!
    Rent.................................... 0
    Management charge (leasehold property).. 0
    Council tax............................. 0
    Electricity............................. 0
    Gas..................................... 0
    Oil..................................... 0
    Water rates............................. 0
    Telephone (land line)................... 35 This seems high, can you reduce it?
    Mobile phone............................ 45 This is also high, can you swich tarrifs/cut down usage?
    TV Licence.............................. 13
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 30 You need to consider getting rid of this or lowering it as much as you can, sorry
    Internet Services....................... 12
    Groceries etc. ......................... 20
    Clothing................................ 0
    Petrol/diesel........................... 50
    Road tax................................ 9
    Car Insurance........................... 25
    Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 0
    Car parking............................. 0
    Other travel............................ 0
    Childcare/nursery....................... 100
    Other child related expenses............ 40 Can you give more info on this?
    Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 0
    Pet insurance/vet bills................. 0
    Buildings insurance..................... 17 Can this be lowered?
    Contents insurance...................... 15 Can this be lowered?
    Life assurance ......................... 15 Can this be lowered? You may need to consider cancelling it
    Other insurance......................... 0
    Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 0
    Haircuts................................ 0
    Entertainment........................... 0
    Holiday................................. 0
    Emergency fund.......................... 0
    Total monthly expenses.................. 1646


    Assets
    Cash.................................... 0
    House value (Gross)..................... 0
    Shares and bonds........................ 0
    Car(s).................................. 1000
    Other assets............................ 0
    Total Assets............................ 1000


    Secured Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Mortgage...................... 0........(340)......0
    Secured Debt.................. 85000....(880)......9
    Total secured debts........... 85000.....-.........-


    Unsecured Debts
    Description....................Debt......Monthly...APR
    Credit Card....................7700......172.......0
    Credit Card....................4200......130.......0
    Store Card.....................140.......12........0This needs to be paid off first, I think
    Total unsecured debts..........12040.....314.......-

    Monthly Budget Summary
    Total monthly income.................... 1,625
    Expenses (including secured debts)....... 1,646
    Available for debt repayments........... -21
    Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 314
    Surplus(deficit if negative)............ -335


    Personal Balance Sheet Summary
    Total assets (things you own)........... 1,000
    Total Secured debt...................... -85,000
    Total Unsecured debt.................... -12,040
    Net Assets.............................. -96,040
    As you can see, you may be able to make a few savings here and there, but that loan is crippling you. You don't even have enough to begin to pay your other debts at the moment after monthly expenses, and you don't need anyone to tell you that's not good.

    Not really sure what to suggest, except you need to get some expert help ASAP...

    Sorry I can't be more help. :(

    ~Jes
    Never underestimate the power of the techno-geek... ;)
  • Spendy, you haven't included the value of your house in the assets section.
    My Debt Free Diary I owe:
    July 16 £19700 Nov 16 £18002
    Aug 16 £19519 Dec 16 £17708
    Sep 16 £18780 Jan 17 £17082
    Oct 16 £17873
  • GeorgeUK
    GeorgeUK Posts: 7,737 Forumite
    Council tax............................. 0
    Electricity............................. 0
    Gas..................................... 0
    Oil..................................... 0
    Water rates............................. 0
    Are utility bills dealt with by OH?

    Mobile phone............................ 45
    PAYG?

    Telephone (land line)................... 35
    Satellite/Cable TV...................... 30
    Internet Services....................... 12
    Can you combine in a package?

    Groceries etc. ......................... 20
    Is this per week or per month??


    Haircuts................................ 0
    Entertainment........................... 0
    Holiday................................. 0
    again, dealt with by OH?

    That secured debt is definately trouble - especially with a fairly high APR for that amount.
    The shortfall is quite worrying as there doesn't seem to be any bills you can cut back on enough to make a difference. Have you tried getting 0% creditcards to transsfer some of the other card debt to? Are these at 0% or do you just not know them right now? If possible, i'd try to get a Virgin credit card as it is not only 0% for 16 months, but the minimum monthly payment is quite low too (£25 after 1st month).
    After falling off the gambling wagon (twice): £33,600 (24,000+ 9,600) - Original CC Debt: £7,885.91

    Dad Gift 6k ¦ Savings & Inv Tst: £2,500
    Loan 10k: £0 ¦ Dad 5.5k: £2,270 ¦ LTSB: £0 ¦ RBS: £0 ¦ Virgin £0 ¦ Egg £0

    Total Owed: £2,270 (+6k) 11/08/2011
  • cantcope
    cantcope Posts: 1,886 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker Debt-free and Proud!
    Hi Spendy, not much advice i'm afradi i just wanted to give you a welcome to the boards and a well done for posting your SOA.
    I'd start with your mobile and satellite services.

    With Christmas coming up could you get a saturday job? Even if its just for the run up to Christmas if you could earn say an extra £50 a week it could slay some of your debt which would in turn make your outgoings less next year..

    Is there a shopping centre nearby that would be recruiting for the Christmas period? Or maybe try being an Avon representative? You could fit both of these around your existing hours.

    How about asking for a payrise? Even if you think the answer will be no, it cant hurt to ask.
    Also try a bootsale to clear out any kids toys that are no longer played with before Christmas. Not only will you make some money but you'll have more space in the house.

    Good luck
    Last bet : 26th Oct 2006:j Debt free 25th Feb 2008:j Living "my" dream:T
  • Jesthar
    Jesthar Posts: 1,450 Forumite
    cantcope wrote: »
    With Christmas coming up could you get a saturday job? Even if its just for the run up to Christmas if you could earn say an extra £50 a week it could slay some of your debt which would in turn make your outgoings less next year..

    Is there a shopping centre nearby that would be recruiting for the Christmas period? Or maybe try being an Avon representative? You could fit both of these around your existing hours.
    From the look of it, you're right - it's going to take both a Saturday/evening job and the cutbacks to get his undr way. Unless there is a way of renegotiating that loan to a lower APR/repayment somehow. But I have no knowledge about those kind of things.

    Some friends of mine used to do delivering catalogues/phone books from time to time to earn some extra money. And, of course, there's cashback sites and daily clicking for a little extra free cash and cashback on purchases, paid surveys etc. - though all those will take a while to build up and come through, of course. Could be a few good wins with changing life/buildings/contests insurance, though, if a cheaper deal can be found.

    Oh, one other thought - have you had any bank or credit card charges in the last six years you could reclaim, Spendy? That could at least knock something off one of your cards.

    Also, have you discussed this with your OH? If not, I think you really need to - you're going to need to tackle this debt together for the best chance of beating it.

    ~Jes :)
    Never underestimate the power of the techno-geek... ;)
  • jaygrunt
    jaygrunt Posts: 529 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    Not toput a downer on you but are you sure you only spend £30 a month on groceries?
    Thats seems like a little amount to me
    If you dont ask you dont get!!
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