Where to promote my website?

intel

tomstickland wrote:

Are you sure? From what I've seen I think the crawlers then follow every link. I put extensive tags on my website and I keep getting people telling me that it comes up no1 or no2 when they search for similar things.

Quote from google:

Please note: Only the top-level page from a host is necessary; you do not need to submit each individual page. Our crawler, Googlebot, will be able to find the rest. Google updates its index on a regular basis, so updated or outdated link submissions are not necessary. Dead links will 'fade out' of our index on our next crawl when we update our entire index.

This is because they only crawl the index page, you will be top
of the rankings because you more than likely inserted good meta data.

tomstickland

Yes, so you only have to submit the top level page and then

Our crawler, Googlebot, will be able to find the rest

It doesn't say anything about not using the meta tags on the other pages once it's found them.

I've never read the details on this - I'm only working on intuition, so I'm not trying to be argumentative. However, I just reckon that if I wrote a search engine then I'd make the crawler check the meta tags, title and content of each page.

intel

No crawlers ony ever read the index.htm/l page as the rest of the pages are cached
and not top level, you can put tags on the rest of the pages but it wont help at all.

From Google.

Please visit our Add URL page to input your URLs. You can submit your site as often as you like, but multiple submissions will not improve the likelihood of your site being added or accelerate the process. We do not penalise sites for "over-submitting." If you choose to submit your site, only the top-level domain is necessary, as the spiders can follow your internal links to the rest of the pages.

tomstickland

So what do the spiders do when they go to the other pages? I'll do some reading up on it.

It's just occured to me that we might be mixing up two things here
1) Submitting the web page so search engine knows about it
2) Making the page more relevant when someone does a search for it

intel

The spiders gather links from pages but when submitting a site you only submit
the index page, Phone Google even they will tell you this.

tomstickland

So, meta tags serve no purpose on other pages? I'm talking about in relation to someone searching for a relevant page, not for submitting it.

I've got to go now, but I've found this so far
http://searchenginewatch.com/sereport/article.php/2165061

Seems to say that Google don't use tags at all.

intel

No meta tags are pretty usless for any other search other than the index page
as of course in the index page you should have the relevant info as to what your website is about, not only that web crawlers skip any other pages except the home/index.

Also you will get hits on various pages depending on how relevant the information
is on the other pages, like a repaeat of the header text for example...

If you insert meta tags the crawler/spider/ant will only look at the index page because the design of a crawler is to discard other pages because it knows that the web designer wouldnt or shouldnt change the tags in other pages as this would serve no purpose, as then the tags would be different, if they are in all pages and the same tags are used there is then no point in a spider looking at other pages with a site.

If you do however find that a site is getting good results with a search engine that is because a lot of visits over hits are happening and the tags are very relevant to the site, with the addition to what information the searcher enters for a result.

HTH


Edit: Thats an old old article and tags are still being used..

ukbill69

justpaper wrote:

oh my days,.. i didnt know that,.. theres alot of ppl that do it,.. oh well as long as ebay feed ebays happy

I think is vary rare that they would close down auctions becuase you display your website link.

Otherwise ebay would be on a huge loss from sellers.

Losts of sellers use there link so users can browse other products and get more info on the product they may be buying in the auction.

ukbill69

intel wrote:

No meta tags are pretty usless for any other search other than the index page
as of course in the index page you should have the relevant info as to what your website is about, not only that web crawlers skip any other pages except the home/index.

Also you will get hits on various pages depending on how relevant the information
is on the other pages, like a repaeat of the header text for example...

If you insert meta tags the crawler/spider/ant will only look at the index page because the design of a crawler is to discard other pages because it knows that the web designer wouldnt or shouldnt change the tags in other pages as this would serve no purpose, as then the tags would be different, if they are in all pages and the same tags are used there is then no point in a spider looking at other pages with a site.

If you do however find that a site is getting good results with a search engine that is because a lot of visits over hits are happening and the tags are very relevant to the site, with the addition to what information the searcher enters for a result.

HTH


Edit: Thats an old old article and tags are still being used..

Thats a load of crap, google uses meta tags (description) and if you have one for each page I mean by unique then your search engine listing will rise. Proven and been used for years by google!

ukbill69

intel wrote:

Quote from google:

Please note: Only the top-level page from a host is necessary; you do not need to submit each individual page. Our crawler, Googlebot, will be able to find the rest. Google updates its index on a regular basis, so updated or outdated link submissions are not necessary. Dead links will 'fade out' of our index on our next crawl when we update our entire index.

This is because they only crawl the index page, you will be top
of the rankings because you more than likely inserted good meta data.

That info a a pile of crap to, why would google ask you submit your sitemap, using google sitemaps via xml.

If google could find all your pages that I create on my massive 108,000 page site then id be a rich man.