Work Placement And Travelling

kazzie-ann

Myself, i think people pander far too much to the younger generations these days, surely if your daughter was finding things that bad she herself would be on here asking for advice or tips. There is nothing wrong with hard work, you will be very proud of her hard work, when she is qualified. People always become defencive when told what they don't want to hear.

pinkshoes

KURTIS wrote: »

Oldernotwisers

spot on with the name there

That's really rude!

I suggest that if you only want people to tell you what you want to hear, then don't bother asking for HELP.

If your daughter can't hack it now, then she should drop out and give someone else the chance, and choose a different career.

She's 20, not 12! My work placement was rubbish pay, I had no help with transport costs, I didn't have a car, the hours were long - but who cares?! It's all good experience, was tiring but fun, and helped me get the fab job I have now!

SomeBozo

The OP seems to be obsessed with the age thing. Shes 20, she is a adult!

Bozo

Voyager2002

KURTIS wrote: »

Oldernotwisers

spot on with the name there

No need for such bad manners! In case you didn't realise, Oldernotwiser is a professional careers adviser and is better placed than anyone to tell you how things are.

Anyway, I do agree that she is being exploited, and that the situation of a very junior accountant is not a good one to be in. I can also confirm that this is the way the profession works: soon after I graduated (nearly thirty years ago) I heard from friends experiencing exactly the same kind of thing. There is nothing you can do to change the way a profession operates. All that you can do is either invite your daughter to consider another career (and pay for the training) or help her to cope with the conditions she faces. Buying her a car would perhaps be a good start.

Some posters have suggested that she find a room near to her work place. Unfortunately accountants often work in their clients' premises, and since she will be visiting a range of clients in lots of different places there will always be lots of travel involved.

ceridwen

Have certainly been reading through this thread with ever-increasing astonishment at seeing how badly trainee accountants are treated - and if this sort of treatment continues to some extent even after they are "properly" established in accountancy jobs - then the phrase "work/life balance" comes very strongly to mind - followed by the phrase "vote with your feet".

I think its appalling to treat someone this way and am sitting here wondering if would-be accountants are told about this before they start in on training for the profession. I do hope they are - though that still doesnt excuse this sort of treatment.

I guess one just has to think - accountancy is clearly a profession to steer WELL clear of if this is typical treatment. The accountancy firms will soon start improving the conditions if they find everyone has "voted with their feet" and they cant get the employees they require.

In any economic climate one has to be very resolute about what is and isnt acceptable from employers.

KURTIS

Pont wrote: »

Can your daughter not sub-let her present flat and perhaps rent a room closer to her placement? Perhaps not a perfect solution but it would cut down her commute time and perhaps earn her some extra income.

The problem is that she has to go to different clients every 2 weeks.

KURTIS

Voyager2002 wrote: »

No need for such bad manners! In case you didn't realise, Oldernotwiser is a professional careers adviser and is better placed than anyone to tell you how things are.

Really WOW! In case you didn't understand my opening post, I am asking whether this is right, not what people think my daughter should be doing, I am on about the legal side of things. So perhaps posters can keep their views to themselves if they have no positive contribution to make.

KURTIS

ceridwen wrote: »

I think its appalling to treat someone this way and am sitting here wondering if would-be accountants are told about this before they start in on training for the profession. I do hope they are - though that still doesnt excuse this sort of treatment.

In any economic climate one has to be very resolute about what is and isnt acceptable from employers.

For some reason although she applied for a placement, she has been put on a graduate program, she is therefore doing what graduates do and not what a student is required on a placement.

Oldernotwiser

ceridwen wrote: »

Have certainly been reading through this thread with ever-increasing astonishment at seeing how badly trainee accountants are treated - and if this sort of treatment continues to some extent even after they are "properly" established in accountancy jobs - then the phrase "work/life balance" comes very strongly to mind - followed by the phrase "vote with your feet".

I think its appalling to treat someone this way and am sitting here wondering if would-be accountants are told about this before they start in on training for the profession. I do hope they are - though that still doesnt excuse this sort of treatment.

I guess one just has to think - accountancy is clearly a profession to steer WELL clear of if this is typical treatment. The accountancy firms will soon start improving the conditions if they find everyone has "voted with their feet" and they cant get the employees they require.

In any economic climate one has to be very resolute about what is and isnt acceptable from employers.

The average salary for an accountant who has been qualified for 5 years is around £45,000 and they often have bonuses, private medical cover etc. You don't earn this kind of money by working 9-5 , around the corner! All the careers information I've ever seen is very clear about this.

Teachers often put in all hours, particularly in their early years of work and as for the hours put in by young doctors, don't even think about it! The law and architecture are also demanding fields. Although my comment wasn't appreciated by the OP, it was true. If you want to go into one of the professions and reap the financial rewards from it then you have to do the hours required. If you want an easy life and "work life balance" is the most important thing for you then these shouldn't be areas that you consider as a career. Very few people earn excellent salaries by clock watching and working to rule.

Oldernotwiser

KURTIS wrote: »

So perhaps posters can keep their views to themselves if they have no positive contribution to make.

If you'd only wanted people to agree with you, perhaps you should have said so in your first post. Not that you'd've had many replies in that case!