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What is a decent upgrade?

Am on £35 12 month contract with O2 carphone warehouse. Would quite like a new phone as I am starting to have problems with my current one.

They have offered £25 pm for 200mins & 100 txts on 18 mth contract, and a Samsung Tocco. I dont think this is particularly great offer? What do you think. What could I push them for?
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  • nickmack
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    They have offered £25 pm for 200mins & 100 txts on 18 mth contract, and a Samsung Tocco. I dont think this is particularly great offer? What do you think. What could I push them for?

    Doesn't sound particularly great, but if you're considering a £25 tariff, you're not going to get an expensive phone for free and a great contract.

    Do you actually want a Tocco?

    Is the amount of mins/texts they're offering enough?

    You can get 200 mins/Unlimited Texts on Orange Dolphin £25 with a free Tocco with Mobile Express or Dial a Phone.

    With mobiles.co.uk (which CPW now owns) you can get 200 mins/200 texts on O2 with a free Tocco plus 9 months 1/2 price or £1.99 for 5 months or £30 Auto Cashback.

    If you've been talking to upgrades, I suggest you go through to retentions (customer loyalty), they should be able to offer you a better deal.
  • davetrousers
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    nickmack wrote: »
    If you've been talking to upgrades, I suggest you go through to retentions (customer loyalty), they should be able to offer you a better deal.

    Agreed, threaten to leave "Well I've seen this deal with XYZ, for X minutes and Y texts with this very nice handset, and I can only get the .......... with you, so I would like to leave please".

    I usually have the relevant websites in front of me at the time.
    .....

  • nickmack wrote: »
    Doesn't sound particularly great, but if you're considering a £25 tariff, you're not going to get an expensive phone for free and a great contract.

    Do you actually want a Tocco?
    Not necessarily a Tocco but have a G600 at the minute and dont want to downgrade

    Is the amount of mins/texts they're offering enough?
    Yes this is enough.


    You can get 200 mins/Unlimited Texts on Orange Dolphin £25 with a free Tocco with Mobile Express or Dial a Phone.
    Cant get reception on Orange where I live


    With mobiles.co.uk (which CPW now owns) you can get 200 mins/200 texts on O2 with a free Tocco plus 9 months 1/2 price or £1.99 for 5 months or £30 Auto Cashback.
    Will have a look at this

    If you've been talking to upgrades, I suggest you go through to retentions (customer loyalty), they should be able to offer you a better deal.
    What is a reasonable demand?

    Thanks for your help!
  • davetrousers
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    What is a reasonable demand?

    In my opinion it is reasonable for an existing customer to get what is offered to new customers. Hence, have a look at offers with other operators and quote one you like the look of to the person whom you are telling you would like to leave.
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  • nickmack
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    In my opinion it is reasonable for an existing customer to get what is offered to new customers. Hence, have a look at offers with other operators and quote one you like the look of to the person whom you are telling you would like to leave.

    I would say at least as good as a new customer deal if staying on the same or moving to a higher tariff , although this doesn't always happen as networks aren't quite as keen on retaining as they have been in the past.

    In this case the OP is going down £10/month in their basic tariff. The £25/month is the only guaranteed income the network is going to get, so they base their calculations on this.
  • nickmack
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    Not necessarily a Tocco but have a G600 at the minute and dont want to downgrade

    Cant get reception on Orange where I live

    You really need to decide what phone you do want and then go back to retentions armed with the best deal for them to match/better.

    Probably best not to mention you can't get Orange reception at your house as this will strike out any Orange comparisons you can hit them with.
  • Can get this phone

    Samsung i8510 Clearance 8GB for 9.99 on £25pm for 200mins/200txts on O2.

    Seems a really nice phone, and very new:

    What do you think of clearance phones?

    Thanks
  • nickmack
    nickmack Posts: 4,435 Forumite
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    Samsung i8510 Clearance 8GB for 9.99 on £25pm for 200mins/200txts on O2.

    Seems a really nice phone, and very new:

    What do you think of clearance phones?

    IMO, the Samsung i8510 is the best overall phone you can get at the moment.

    You shouldn't have a problem with a clearance phone of this model, as it's so new. It's probably an ex-demo, or returned for a genuine reason.

    That sounds like a reasonable deal considering CPW have this exclusively and it's only available on O2 and Orange at the moment.
  • hi,

    im due for an upgrade and i really want the new samsung omnia. i can get it on a tariff of £40 a month with 500 minutes and 400 texts. do you think i could get a better deal?
  • nickmack
    nickmack Posts: 4,435 Forumite
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    im due for an upgrade and i really want the new samsung omnia. i can get it on a tariff of £40 a month with 500 minutes and 400 texts. do you think i could get a better deal?

    Free Samsung i900 8Gb Omnia on Orange.

    600 mins, Unlimited Texts on an 18 month Dolphin £35 tariff. At MobileExpress or Mobiles2yourdoor.
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