Gas Fire Part - Can you help identify it from the picture?

pealy

I've been unable to light my gas fire again and have identified the problem as the part in this picture (the one on the left, there's a picture of it in-situ to the right).



My guess is that it could be a Pilot Injector?? It keeps getting blocked with soot/coke but this time I've been unable to unblock it. My attempts with a tiny drill have created something of a pilot inferno so I'm hoping I'll be able to find a replacement.

All tips on what it is and where I might be able to get another would be very much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

welda

Is the item left on pic the igniter button? If so, probably the pizo (spelling?) needs to be replaced, I have changed once before on my own gas fire, you should be able to replace through a plumber merchants.

I'm no expert, but if soot/dust was to settle on pilot light area, I would like to think the gas pressure (although probably low end millibars?) would be suffice to blow any particles from pilot light ignite area??

Regarding your own efforts at sorting this prob with use of small drill bit, I suggest for safety reasons to call out a Corgi registered engineer.

W.

pealy

welda wrote: »

Is the item left on pic the igniter button? If so, probably the pizo (spelling?) needs to be replaced, I have changed once before on my own gas fire, you should be able to replace through a plumber merchants.
W.

Thanks for the reply but no, it's not the ignition, there's no problem with that. This item is the pilot which is fed from the by gas and ignited by a spark (via the piezo ignition) from the white item to its left. The item on its right is the safety thermocouple (also working fine) which cuts off the main gas supply to the fire if it not kept nice & hot by the pilot.

I understand what you're saying about getting a Corgi engineer out but if I can find a replacement for this part then I see no reason why I can't fit it myself. If this was a problem with anything but the pilot assembly I would not be looking at it myself.

cajef

pealy wrote: »

I understand what you're saying about getting a Corgi engineer out but if I can find a replacement for this part then I see no reason why I can't fit it myself. If this was a problem with anything but the pilot assembly I would not be looking at it myself.

While I agree that is does seem easy to fit such a minor part, the problem with fitting it yourself is that is illegal for anyone other than a Corgi Engineer to touch any part that is a gas supply fitting and a pilot light is a gas part.

pealy

cajef wrote: »

is illegal for anyone other than a Corgi Engineer to touch any part that is a gas supply fitting and a pilot light is a gas part.

Not sure that's strictly true, I think I'm allowed to fiddle with my own appliance as long as I don't touch yours..

Thanks for the input though..

jcorbygas

You are allowed to work on your own appliances as long as you are 'competent'. This generally means having qualifications/being Corgi registered, so if you tried to mend your own gas fire and managed to blow not only your own house up but also your neighbours house, I dont think that you would be classed as competent in the eyes of the law courts (or your insurance company).

madjay

pealy wrote: »

Not sure that's strictly true, I think I'm allowed to fiddle with my own appliance as long as I don't touch yours..

Thanks for the input though..

You will find that you are not allowed....... but you can't tell some people because they think they know it all......LOL

EliteHeat

jcorbygas wrote: »

You are allowed to work on your own appliances as long as you are 'competent'. This generally means having qualifications/being Corgi registered, so if you tried to mend your own gas fire and managed to blow not only your own house up but also your neighbours house, I dont think that you would be classed as competent in the eyes of the law courts (or your insurance company).

Competent? !!!!!!, the OP has a dangerous appliance which he is trying to make even more dangerous.

It is really hard to understand the stupidity of his/her actions in prefering to risk the lives of everyone in the house for the sake of a few quid.

Pssst

It is clearly a pilot burner and injector assembly. If blocked,never oh never drill it out or poke it out with anything substantial otherwise you will end up with a very large pilot light and there will be no need to light the fire to get warm (as you have found!) Now that you have bu ggered it up,you will have to buy a new one. Availability will depend on make/model of fire. The assembly may well be marked with a makers name.

Under the Gas Safety Installation and use regs, you have to be competent to work on gas appliances. In practice,you will only have to demonstrate competence if you are taken to task or something goes wrong. Anyone carrying our work in trade and for money has to have certificated competence in the form of ACS certification or equivalent for the type of appliances they work on. ACS certificates can be obtained by attending your local training centre and giving them money.

pealy

Pssst wrote: »

Now that you have bu ggered it up,you will have to buy a new one

I think you've summed things up nicely there!

Thanks for the input, I wanted to get the terminology right before I start looking for somewhere to get one. Any recommendations on where to look? Standard plumbing & heating suppliers?

EliteHeat

Just call the manufacturers and explain to them that you have an appliance that any corgi would recognise as being immediately dangerous and that in an effort to bypass the cause of the problem you have damaged the pilot injector.

You can then explain that even though the flame supervision device was doing it job perfectly and was trying to save your life, you decided to try and treat the symptoms of the problem without addressing the cause. Add to this that in your opinion you are competent to do this work, even though you have been advised not to by qualified engineers.

I am sure that they will be more than happy to pop one in the post to you.