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Advise on damage caused by tenants

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  • guppy
    guppy Posts: 1,084 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture Combo Breaker
    real1314 wrote: »
    What about an old car that's only worth £250 but someone puts a big dent in the wing. It'll cost £150 to put right, almost half the car's worth. But it doesn't even affect the value by £10. Would you say "ah, forget it, it doesn't matter" ??

    And if they gave you the money for the repair but you decided to not have the repair and bank the money towards a new car (you were thinking of buying a new car); Would that make you scum? :confused:

    From reading this, it is apparent that you've never made an insurance claim on an old car!

    The insurance company say, well, your car (or carpet) is 10 years old...its got very little value, it will cost loads to fix, and simply give you the market value of the car.

    The fact the value is far greater to you, is sadly irrelevant.

    The same goes for the OP's carpet. As neverdespairgirl made clear, you can't claim for more than the value of what you have lost.
  • Drea
    Drea Posts: 9,892 Forumite
    envelopes wrote: »
    Lynne,

    Its your house, its your carpet, you don't have to tell your tenants anything, it is non of their business. If you want to fit laminate then do so, i don't think that it is ethical to charge them for the carept because you allowed the pets - renting property is a learning curve - i remember my first tenants telling me that their last landlord wouldn't allow them to put up picture hooks so that they could hang pictures and i said that they could make themselves at home - wen they'd gone and there were nails hammered in at different levels on every single wall and they had painted the living room deep purple covering the carpet in splodges of purple paint and also painting all the woodwork in emulsion i recognised that a strict tenancy was needed for future.

    It is your home and it is your business, TBH i'd leave the carept until after they have vacated and then lay laminate - i don't think that you can expect them to pay for any part of a new carpet - i have lovely carepts that are over 10 years old - you get what you pay for.

    I loose more some years than i make on my property, i hate the business, it is hard work and there merely because we do not pay into a pension because we are both self employed - one of the properties used to be my home hence the very expensive carpet.........

    But it really doesn't matter what your tenants know But you can't really make them pay for new floor but you can ask them to pay to have the current carpet cleaned and really only when they are due to move out.

    You could write to them now though and explain that you are not happy about their cat shoiting on your carpet and they either get their cat trained or you ask them to get rid of the cat or them to move out whichever they prefer really.

    Good luck.

    Did I miss this bit about a cat pooping on the carpet? I thought it had just scratched at it?

    Although on the matter of that, I think people have to understand that pet owners cannot always control exactly what their pet does, that is why we seek confirmation that a pet IS allowed in the property. I am in a rental with my cat, I have recently had problems with him pooping where he shouldn't, I am trying to deal with it and I'm just glad it is laminate and easy to clean up straight away.

    It seems to me a lot of people think that us that rent are dirty disgusting people, I do my best to keep this place clean and tidy, my biggest problem is doing my dishes :rotfl: but then, they are my dishes :p
    Just because you made a mistake doesn't mean you are a mistake.
  • Drea wrote: »
    Did I miss this bit about a cat pooping on the carpet? I thought it had just scratched at it?

    Although on the matter of that, I think people have to understand that pet owners cannot always control exactly what their pet does, that is why we seek confirmation that a pet IS allowed in the property. I am in a rental with my cat, I have recently had problems with him pooping where he shouldn't, I am trying to deal with it and I'm just glad it is laminate and easy to clean up straight away.

    It seems to me a lot of people think that us that rent are dirty disgusting people, I do my best to keep this place clean and tidy, my biggest problem is doing my dishes :rotfl: but then, they are my dishes :p

    I have had some wonderful tenants - lovely clean people who have left the houses in perfect condition, those people i can't fault and i have had tenants who have had pets and again they have left the house clean - spray some white vinegar where the cat wees, it will clean up the wee, should disinfect it and stop her weeing there again - it was only after we had a tenants that allowed his dog to shoite everywhere and didn't clean up that we banned pets and we had to learn the hard way - the expensive way.

    I think that as a landlord i want people to live as freely and as comfortably as possible. Unfortunately there are a lot of tenants who abuse rented property.

    I had one who seemed great, brilliant, i had the house decorated right through, new carpets, new kitchen , a complete refurb - a month later i didn't get my rent, when i eventually managed to get into the house he had smashed the kicthen table, used the leg to smash every unit in the kicthen, he'd thrown a chip pan around the kitchen, denting every wall and covering the paint in oil which, never cleaned off, there was cooking oil on every carpet and he's smashed holes into my victorian bedroom furniture, the new lino was ripped, aww it was soul destroying because we had spent weeks a weeks and thousands of pounds doing it all whilst my kids sat and coloured pictures in a busilding site - I was devastated. Yep, insurance can cover that sort of damage but sorting it all out takes time and money that you can't claim - for every one lovely tenant i get one vile tenant who takes the mickey and lots just do not care for the propery because at the end of the day its not theirs - they have no respect.

    You sould like the perfect tenant - you care about where you live and that is nice. I don't tar all of my tenants with the same brush - i have bent over backwards for some tenants too and been easy with late rent etc.

    Now get those posts done:D Then come and do mine :D
  • envelopes wrote: »
    Had i have had no heart i'd have gone to his next of kin and aksed them for the money to repair the house 0- i didn't i took the loss - now tell me where i have no heart.

    No heart? I guess it was the "some bloke died, cost me £2k" bit.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • No heart? I guess it was the "some bloke died, cost me £2k" bit.

    It did cost me, thats 100% fact - the fact that he died has nothing to do with me, why should i have a heart for someone who trashed my home?? I showed great sympathy for his family, I spent the whole of Christmas, leaving my kids with neighbours whilst i went and removed all of his belongings - all his dog shoite covered belongings and took them to the tip, 24 trips cause i couldn't get a skip so close to Xmas, I had to clean out a maggot infested kitchen whilst puking cause the smell was so bad, I had to scrape dog shoite off of my new windows, pick up his dead fish because he'd fallen onto their tank and knocked it over - he'd died at work by the way - I had to bag up his filthy underwear and all that time my kids weren't at home with me, going seeing santa or making decorations, getting excited they were with anyone who would look after them.

    I won't go on - I think giving his mother a hug when she stood at my front door handing me the keys after claiming to have been into the house to clean up was showing heart and not then knocking on her door to ask for the money to sort out her sons mess was showing quite a large heart to be honest.

    And yes, he was some bloke and yes it cost me 2K - I'd love to appear to have more of a heart just to keep you happy and less insulting but its not happening.
    :T
  • envelopes wrote: »
    and not then knocking on her door to ask for the money to sort out her sons mess was showing quite a large heart to be honest.

    oh well. :confused:
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
  • No heart? I guess it was the "some bloke died, cost me £2k" bit.

    And where exactly did i say this? You are having a go at me based on something i didn't say?? You misquoted thats highly immoral, unjust, unfair and libellous, abusive and offensive.

    Oh Well :confused:
  • envelopes wrote: »
    And where exactly did i say this? You are having a go at me based on something i didn't say?? You misquoted thats highly immoral, unjust, unfair and libellous, abusive and offensive.

    Oh Well :confused:




    Welcome to the MSE forum.:eek:
  • tbs624
    tbs624 Posts: 10,816 Forumite
    Wings wrote: »
    There is nothing in the legislations to stop a landlord renting to an ex partner or a relative, therefore the amateur LL is not committing Housing Benefit fraud, particularly if questions asked by the Benefit Agency are honestly answered by the amateur LL.
    Sorry to momentarily divert the thread folks - Wings - you are wrong and unfortunately your assertions on here may mislead others: if the LL is the other parent of the child of the tenant there cannot be a valid claim for HB. The tenant will be treated as having no liability for rent, so no benefit payable. Full stop. Your posts suggested that the OP in that thread should change their names and lie. However, so as not to bore others to tears and/or distract from someone else's thread, if you want to continue the "discussion" by PM that's fine by me:smiley:
  • envelopes wrote: »
    And where exactly did i say this? You are having a go at me based on something i didn't say?? You misquoted thats highly immoral, unjust, unfair and libellous, abusive and offensive.

    Cor. Immoral, unjust, unfair, libellous, abusive and offensive, all in one sentence?

    You actually said, "unfortunately he died and all i had was his £400, it cost me £2k to put the hosue right"

    I find that pretty offensive, as well.
    ...much enquiry having been made concerning a gentleman, who had quitted a company where Johnson was, and no information being obtained; at last Johnson observed, that 'he did not care to speak ill of any man behind his back, but he believed the gentleman was an attorney'.
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