Could we get bumped into the Euro

GeorgeHowell

amcluesent wrote: »

Just the sort of stunt the treacherous little pension thief would be planning as part of Labour's 'scorched earth' policy to scupper the incoming Tory government, and they don't give a damn about the country as they leave office having trousered everything that wasn't nailed down.

You can be sure the proven liar and financial bungler Clown is only thinking about himself now, now doubt he's been tipped the wink that bouncing us into the Euro would earn him a handsomely rewarded non-job on Brussels and a pension worth millions.

How he must salivate at the prospect, a jumped up pipsqueak getting some debauched title from the EU so he can try and lord it over Blair.

Clown's own ego and vanity has led this country to disaster.

Indeed, they don't want Blair (T) as President of Europe, so they would be looking for someone else. GB ideally suited to the post I would think :- unimaginative, power-hungry, left-leaning, bureaucratic, control-freak.

gozomark

purch wrote: »

.....yeah sure :eek:

And the Brothers Grimm wrote factual accounts of historical figures :rotfl:

all the 10 recent countries who switched to the Euro met the conditions - whether you like it or not, they did. I live in one of the countries who joined then, and I can assure you the criterion were met. I'm no apologist for the euro, and doubt it is sensible for the UK to join, but ones views on the euro shouldn't cloud the facts.

TRUSt_NO_1_2

Most people (95%) of Britain are 'going into the poverty trap ' either way.
I feel so sorry for the young peope of today.

There are seismic shifts in attitude occuring already.
eg knife crime,shootings.


The people who run the show know this and what the underlying reason is,but try to dress it up as an attitude problem.

For you 'baby boomers', as I suspect 90% of the people on this forum,like me, are over 45, ..try to understand things from a teenagers perspective.
You were once in their shoes, BUT in probably the best times in history to be a teenager.

LucyTheDwarf

I am young. I don't feel grim, looking to the future. The world is my oyster, and indeed it is anyone's who's prepared to work for it.

The knife crime and shootings are not representative of the lifestyle and beliefs of the young. What the media portrays, isn't always the truth.

Cheer up folks.

Lansdowne

gozomark wrote: »

all the 10 recent ecountries who switched to the Euro met the conditions

Slovenia, Malta, Cyprus. That makes 3 not 10.

Other countries, Kosovo etc, don't count as they are not EU members, they just use the currency 'unofficially' in the same way as some Latin Am countries use the US$.

Hungerdunger

Is this discussion open to anyone, or just to readers of the Express and Mail?

gozomark

Lansdowne wrote: »

Slovenia, Malta, Cyprus. That makes 3 not 10.

Other countries, Kosovo etc, don't count as they are not EU members, they just use the currency 'unofficially' in the same way as some Latin Am countries use the US$.

sorry about that, you are correct, it was three, and all three met the criteria. The other post 2004 EU entrants haven't met the criteria yet, but all have target dates to do so.

1 January 2009 for Slovakia
1 January 2010 for Lithuania
1 January 2011 for Estonia
1 January 2012 for Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Hungary, Latvia, Poland
2014 for Romania.

opinions4u

I am less worried about a change in currency (which I oppose on political and economic grounds, but ultimately it's just a different symbol in front of an online electronic transfer to clear my credit card request) and much more worried about our future economic stability.

1) Government spends more than it earns.
2) Government has no plans to ever repay this (their 'economic cycle' rule kept getting extended and now the markets have extended it by decades).
3) Our banks that survive will reign in their lending which will limit potential for growth massively.

Until we make a conscious decision for the state to spend a lot less (local council could reduce staffing levels by 30% and I doubt the public would notice) and to always balance the nation's budget over a 5 year cycle, we are doomed - and our way of life will go with it.

Count_Dante

TRUSt_NO_1 wrote: »

Most people (95%) of Britain are 'going into the poverty trap ' either way.
I feel so sorry for the young peope of today.

There are seismic shifts in attitude occuring already.
eg knife crime,shootings.


The people who run the show know this and what the underlying reason is,but try to dress it up as an attitude problem.

For you 'baby boomers', as I suspect 90% of the people on this forum,like me, are over 45, ..try to understand things from a teenagers perspective.
You were once in their shoes, BUT in probably the best times in history to be a teenager.

Actually, crime is falling.

opinions4u

Count_Dante wrote: »

Actually, crime is falling.

Lies, damned lies and statistics?

As they keep changing how they measure "crime" how do we really know?

Violent crime has increase more or less year on year for the last decade.

I would hazard a guess that there has been an increase in the levels of unreported crime that misses those statistics.