Local paper - £500K houses, half of estate possibly bought by housing association

StevieJ

SingleSue wrote: »

So why is it then, that most people will class those who do not work (and all of us who don't work do get lumped into that generalisation) as scum straight away?

Those that do are obviously not very bright, and may soon be finding themselves in that
unenviable position.

SingleSue

Realy wrote: »

Because it devalues their status if "the poor can have the same".
I make a good living and would never deny anyone an opportunity on their background or current situation; we are just people after all.
I was brought up on a council estate am I scum?
Or am I like a male Cinderella.:rotfl:

Lol

I don't expect the same as those who can afford it and have probably worked very hard for it but it would be nice not to be automatically classed as scum because I live in social housing through no real fault of my own.

As for Cinderella :rotfl: I would love to be a female version but the bodice would be a bit tight! :rotfl:

Realy

SingleSue wrote: »

Lol

I don't expect the same as those who can afford it and have probably worked very hard for it but it would be nice not to be automatically classed as scum because I live in social housing through no real fault of my own.

No I know, but why should your children (or any one elses) education be based on who can afford closest to the best schools.
I think the 25-30% rule benifits the kids the most.(or little scum bags some would prefer:rolleyes: )

Max_Headroom_3

Snobbery aside, I think it is fair to say that in the majority of cases, people who don't own their own homes (with or without mortgage) simply don't look after them as well. There are exceptions of course, people who rent and keep the place immaculate, and people who own and live like pigs. However, if you took 40 identical houses in 2 identical streets, one street owner/occupier and one renters, you would see a difference.

And I say that as someone who once rented and now owns. I used to look after the rented place ok, but not with as much effort and pride as the place I now own. It's simple human nature.

On another note, a friend of mine lives in a street on a new estate with some social housing. As I'd drive to her house of an evening in the summer you'd spot the social housing bit as the people living there would sit on the kerb with their feet in the gutter talking across the road to those from the social housing opposite sitting facing them in the same way. It was never a problem, but I always found it slightly bizarre.

More of a problem, another friend of mine lives on an estate with social housing behind her, their garden bordering hers. She cannot use her garden in summer due to the noise, musc, shouting, swearing etc and frequently has to pick up empty cans and beer bottles that are thrown over the fence into her garden. She daren't complain.

Total generalisation of course, and as I say, there always will be plenty of exceptions, but non the less the generalised view is probably broadly the correct one and if I were the woman in the story of the original post I too would be most concerned.

Realy

Max_Headroom wrote: »

Snobbery aside, I think it is fair to say that in the majority of cases, people who don't own their own homes (with or without mortgage) simply don't look after them as well. There are exceptions of course, people who rent and keep the place immaculate, and people who own and live like pigs. However, if you took 40 identical houses in 2 identical streets, one street owner/occupier and one renters, you would see a difference.

And I say that as someone who once rented and now owns. I used to look after the rented place ok, but not with as much effort and pride as the place I now own. It's simple human nature.

On another note, a friend of mine lives in a street on a new estate with some social housing. As I'd drive to her house of an evening in the summer you'd spot the social housing bit as the people living there would sit on the kerb with their feet in the gutter talking across the road to those from the social housing opposite sitting facing them in the same way. It was never a problem, but I always found it slightly bizarre.

More of a problem, another friend of mine lives on an estate with social housing behind her, their garden bordering hers. She cannot use her garden in summer due to the noise, musc, shouting, swearing etc and frequently has to pick up empty cans and beer bottles that are thrown over the fence into her garden. She daren't complain.

Total generalisation of course, and as I say, there always will be plenty of exceptions, but non the less the generalised view is probably broadly the correct one and if I were the woman in the story of the original post I too would be most concerned.

Is that down to them all being put in the same area before?
Nothing to aspire to and not wanting to stand out (Get robbed).
As for your friend if it is HA she should complain as they will be gone.
Did she not look in to who would run the social housing before buying!
It amazes me that some people go in to the biggest financial decision in their life and not look in to it.

Max_Headroom_3

Realy wrote: »

Did she not look in to who would run the social housing before buying!
It amazes me that some people go in to the biggest financial decision in their life and not look in to it.

I really don't think that she believed that social housing would be the problem that it has been.

ginvzt

Well, people would buy a house without even seeing it (off-plan) or how the area will look, but yet - they would not buy a car without test drive.... And the latter usually costs less than 10% of the house price... (well, unless you park lamborghini in front of your sub £125k 2-bed mews)

sdooley

Interesting that one of the comments about the people living in social housing (above) is that they stand around and talk to their neighbours. I would think that is a good thing, and will help deter any robberies.

Realy

Max_Headroom wrote: »

I really don't think that she believed that social housing would be the problem that it has been.

Well why did you not warn her.
Sorry but you have to take responsibilty for your life someware. Ignoring things is not one way.
Every HA as a website you can check out the other sites they run etc. If i was spending £XXX,XXX on a house I think i would do at least some reaserch.

Max_Headroom_3

sdooley wrote: »

Interesting that one of the comments about the people living in social housing (above) is that they stand around and talk to their neighbours. I would think that is a good thing, and will help deter any robberies.

My next door neighbour has becoe one of my best friends. But we manage to communicate without sitting on the kerb, we go into each others houses.