Local paper - £500K houses, half of estate possibly bought by housing association

StevieJ

Realy wrote: »

To right, we used to live on entirely private estate and it had no soul and it was all keeping up with the Jones's.
Now I live in a 25% social area and it is so friendly as we don't all have the same boring back grounds.
I now live in a community like the old day (I Presume)
The mixed housing part (providing it is well managed) is something the government/councils did actually get right (or should that read only)

Doesn't surprise me in the least.

StevieJ

tomstickland wrote: »

Isn't that just as much a load of generalisations as "housing association tenants are scum"?
I have a mortgage on my flat. I don't have any interest in keeping up with the Jones's or any form of conspicuous consumption. I'd like to think that I was just as interesting as someone who didn't have a mortgage.
At what point does having a mortgage stop people being friendly?

Strange you don't mention your neighbours.

Realy

tomstickland wrote: »

Isn't that just as much a load of generalisations as "housing association tenants are scum"?
I have a mortgage on my flat. I don't have any interest in keeping up with the Jones's or any form of conspicuous consumption. I'd like to think that I was just as interesting as someone who didn't have a mortgage.
At what point does having a mortgage stop people being friendly?

No. as it is from experience. So from my experience the new area I live in is friendlier.
Having people from different backgrounds and classes brings together people who would not be together on a "normal housing estate" we ask more questions as we understand each other less I suppose. (Also we live in all different size housing unlike the majority of 1950s – 2006 style housing estate.)

You live in a flat which most probably has working and non working people in the block and people from different classes (or maybe it is executive flats I don’t know).
I think you are trying to read something in to my post that is not there.
As I have not said people with a mortgage are less friendly, just that were I live now is more friendly (I put this down to the mix)

SingleSue

At what point do you become scum?

I don't work, I live in social housing....I did use to work though and I am trying to get another job.

Am I scum?

Well not in my book anyway....I have no criminal record, I had worked from the age of 16 (full time) and 12 (part time) but have not worked for the last 3 years due to care duties for 2 disabled children. I hate the thought of breaking the law (I am one of those people you hate driving down the road at bang on or just under the speed limit dependent on weather conditions! :rotfl: )

So when did I become scum?

Onto the main point of this thread, actually I can see where she is coming from. She has spent out (wisely or not) over half a million on her retirement home and as such, has expected people of the same class to be near her (rightly or wrongly). Now she finds that after paying out all that money, others are going to get the same properties for a lot less per week than she has had to pay out and also has the possibility of getting the less than law abiding near to her.

It is not a definate of course that the tenants moving in will be like that, as you can get good and bad in both owned and rented (HA or private)...as I know to my own cost with my owner occupier neighbours who act more chav than a social housing chav is supposed to!

In my area, there are no council houses, it is all housing association although the council will put people forward to join the list of the HA's but it does not give them anymore points or importance.

Realy

StevieJ wrote: »

You could buy a nice 5 bedroom house and plenty of land on Lake Erie Canada (near Niagra Falls), with living costs a great deal cheaper than UK, nice place to retire.

And good carp Fishing.If you like that kind of thing.;)

StevieJ

SingleSue wrote: »

At what point do you become scum?

I don't work, I live in social housing....I did use to work though and I am trying to get another job.

Am I scum?

Well not in my book anyway....I have no criminal record, I had worked from the age of 16 (full time) and 12 (part time) but have not worked for the last 3 years due to care duties for 2 disabled children. I hate the thought of breaking the law (I am one of those people you hate driving down the road at bang on or just under the speed limit dependent on weather conditions! :rotfl: )

So when did I become scum?

Onto the main point of this thread, actually I can see where she is coming from. She has spent out (wisely or not) over half a million on her retirement home and as such, has expected people of the same class to be near her (rightly or wrongly). Now she finds that after paying out all that money, others are going to get the same properties for a lot less per week than she has had to pay out and also has the possibility of getting the less than law abiding near to her.

It is not a definate of course that the tenants moving in will be like that, as you can get good and bad in both owned and rented (HA or private)...as I know to my own cost with my owner occupier neighbours who act more chav than a social housing chav is supposed to!

In my area, there are no council houses, it is all housing association although the council will put people forward to join the list of the HA's but it does not give them anymore points or importance.

People only become scum when they behave like scum, whether they live in social housing or Mayfair.

SingleSue

So why is it then, that most people will class those who do not work (and all of us who don't work do get lumped into that generalisation) as scum straight away?

mewbie_2

SingleSue wrote: »

So why is it then, that most people will class those who do not work (and all of us who don't work do get lumped into that generalisation) as scum straight away?

Because most people are scum.. if you see what I mean. It's a state of mind, not wealth.

Edited to make point a little clearer.

And edited further...
Those who think of others as scum are themselves likely to be considered scum by others. This still isn't very clear, and I wish I hadn't posted it. I am trying to make a supportive point.

Realy

SingleSue wrote: »

So why is it then, that most people will class those who do not work (and all of us who don't work do get lumped into that generalisation) as scum straight away?

Because it devalues their status if "the poor can have the same".
I make a good living and would never deny anyone an opportunity on their background or current situation; we are just people after all.
I was brought up on a council estate am I scum?
Or am I like a male Cinderella.:rotfl:

Realy

mewbie wrote: »

Because most people are scum.. if you see what I mean. It's a state of mind, not wealth.

I get it now he is just being a WUM;) . Or is he.