Protests against Wall St bailout starts

dad-of-4

moanymoany wrote: »

Just had a little browse and found this interesting article.

http://www.michaelmoore.com/sicko/_media/SiCKO_sickofactoids.pdf

• According to the UN Human Development Report, while the United States leads the world in spending on health care, “countries spending substantially less than the US have healthier populations.… The infant mortality rate for the U.S. is now higher than for many other industrial countries.”11


• A study in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that older
Americans are significantly less healthy than their British counterparts - we have more diabetes, heart attacks, strokes, lung disease and cancer. Even the poorest Brits can expect to live longer than the richest Americans.14

Not all bad for us then -

i enjoyed the sicco documentary, right up the point where moore came to the UK and started to make out the NHS is some kind of utopian health care system, it just made me question the validity of everything else i had seen but had no first hand experiance of (the USA & canadian medical system)

after digging around a bit, i found a documentary called Manufacturing Dissent, i recomend people watch that before taking what moore say's as being fact.;)

Dan:_4

Max_Headroom wrote: »

Looks like the protesting has started. You can kinda see their point!

http://money.cnn.com/2008/09/25/news/economy/bailout_protests/?postversion=2008092515

Yes you can see their point. But something has to be in place for Monday or we're all doomed!

baby_boomer

penguine wrote: »

One of the strange things about the US is that many people vote Republican, even if it goes against their own personal interests, because the Republicans are seen to uphold the religious values that they deem most important. So much for separation of church and state...

Church and state are separated. The Republicans often wish they aren't e.g. wanting to introduce school prayers.

What's wrong with people voting as they believe? I think it's called democracy. The separation of church and state was never intended to suppress religion, nor has it.

Thanks for the correcting my typo on the Senate, BTW.

dad-of-4

looks like any civil unrest could be stamped out quickly and easily..

For the first time ever, the US military is deploying an active duty regular Army combat unit for full-time use inside the United States to deal with emergencies, including potential civil unrest.

http://www.infowars.com/?p=4887

GDB2222

dad-of-4 wrote: »

looks like any civil unrest could be stamped out quickly and easily..

For the first time ever, the US military is deploying an active duty regular Army combat unit for full-time use inside the United States to deal with emergencies, including potential civil unrest.

http://www.infowars.com/?p=4887

If they let the banking system collapse, they'll need to be ready to declare martial law as soon as the food riots start.

StevieJ

neverdespairgirl wrote: »

But he married a Norman lass, and was King of England (-:

Emma, his wife, is fascinating. She was the daughter-in-law of two separate Kings of England (Sweign * Forkbeard, Edgar), wife of another two (Aethelred the Unready, Canute) and mother of two more - Harthacanute and Edward the Confessor. She was also the step-mother of another two English Kings (Edmund and Harold Harefoot). She was mother-in-law to the Counts of Vexin (sp?) and Boulougne, and to Henry III of Germany, and step-mother to Kings of Norway and Denmark

And her second son, Alfred Aetheling, was murdered by having his eyes put out, by Earl Godwin, father of Harold Godwinson, who lost the Battle of Hastings against Emma's great-nephew, William the Conqueror. Quite a life, really!

She also, very unusually, wrote (or caused to be written) a book of her life, Encomium Emmae Reginae, which omitted all reference to her marriage to Aethelred the Unready, and her children by him.


* - still not happy about the spelling, but not sure what to write instead

Not to digress (well yes), but there is a legend in the city of Chester that King Harold didn't die at the battle of Hastings, but saw out his days in an Anchorite cell in Grosvenor Park Chester.
Right back to the end of the world.

baby_boomer

Unlikely IMHO.

There was enough Saxon opposition in 1069/70 for him to have returned as leader and caused problems. But the Saxons instead were looking to a combination of Edgar Atheling (now 18) and King Swein of Denmark who sent troops over for about a year, and even briefly joined them himself before William bought him off. Harold wouldn't have passed up a chance to be at its head - and indeed, this would have galvanised the opposition.

Chester was a centre of opposition in this period BTW, only broken when William unexpectedly crossed the Pennines in a February forced march.

Will Gordon show as much courage and determination to steer his" kingdom" away from domesday? Or are we heading for the levels of taxation in the 2010s that the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle complained of under William?

StevieJ

baby_boomer wrote: »

Unlikely IMHO.

There was enough Saxon opposition in 1069/70 for him to have returned as leader and caused problems. But the Saxons instead were looking to a combination of Edgar Atheling (now 18) and King Swein of Denmark who sent troops over for about a year, and even briefly joined them himself before William bought him off. Harold wouldn't have passed up a chance to be at its head - and indeed, this would have galvanised the opposition.

Chester was a centre of opposition in this period BTW, only broken when William unexpectedly crossed the Pennines in a February forced march.

Will Gordon show as much courage and determination to steer his" kingdom" away from domesday? Or are we heading for the levels of taxation in the 2010s that the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle complained of under William?

Unlikely, Yes.
I think the legend originated because the ex queen was seen visiting the Anchorite cell day after day after the battle of Hastings.

baby_boomer

Are the greedy Norman barons and sheriffs the 11th Century equivalent of our 21st Century bankers?

Filling their bellies with fat bonuses and the finest foods and wines, while us poor Saxon toilers are driven to an early grave, or failing that debt reduction services at Citizens Advice?

Do we have a Robin Hood?

Or will we also have to wait a couple of hundred years .

GracieP

I like how you've managed to tie our big tangent back into the original topic.:T