Fair day rate for a plumber

docmatt

Another thing I've learned from this thread.

'Tits' doesn't succumb to the swear filter.

diywhynot

leveller2911 wrote: »

I have a small Joinery workshop, don't take this the wrong way but far more overheads than a Plumber and charge far less than £40-00 a hour.I can understand call out charges for small jobs as I know from experience you can run around all day and not make your day rate but "day rate" of £40-00 hr is way over the top. Nearly all of the qualified plumbers (heating engineers) I know charge around £200-00 a day , which is for a full days work.

Just curious, what are your overheads? Btw I know at least 2 RGIs posting on here bill £300 daily rate and they don't live in the southeast.:D

leveller2911

diywhynot wrote: »

Just curious, what are your overheads? Btw I know at least 2 RGIs posting on here bill £300 daily rate and they don't live in the southeast.:D

Rent
Electric
heating
business rates
public liability insurance (inside & outside workshop)
contents insurance
van and servicing costs
diesel
van insurance
power tools
machinery & tooling (last purchase was a rip saw £4,000,Four sided moulder £12k)
waste clearance

Theres probably more and will add if I remember..:D

theres is more:
accountants fees
postage
stationary
clothing
footwear
bank charges

Thanks Nickj

nickj_2

leveller2911 wrote: »

Rent
Electric
heating
business rates
public liability insurance (inside & outside workshop)
contents insurance
van and servicing costs
diesel
van insurance
power tools
machinery & tooling (last purchase was a rip saw £4,000,Four sided moulder £12k)
waste clearance

Theres probably more and will add if I remember..:D

accountants fees
postage
stationary
clothing
footwear
bank charges

C_Mababejive

Havent read it all.

You know you just cant trust tut Tradesmen. They will rip you off at every turn.

Good thing we have so many fine upstanding and trustworthy TV presenters who keep us all up to speed with all the latest scams of these cunning individuals..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2265380/BBC-Cowboy-Trap-presenter-Clive-Holland-sacked-inappropriate-behaviour-woman-met-show.html

and

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/bbc-rogue-traders-star-dan-1145732

leveller2911

C_Mababejive wrote: »

Havent read it all.

You know you just cant trust tut Tradesmen. They will rip you off at every turn.

Good thing we have so many fine upstanding and trustworthy TV presenters who keep us all up to speed with all the latest scams of these cunning individuals..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2265380/BBC-Cowboy-Trap-presenter-Clive-Holland-sacked-inappropriate-behaviour-woman-met-show.html

and

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/bbc-rogue-traders-star-dan-1145732

Didn't like him anyway, he said "never,ever pay any money upfront to a builder"......"Builders and tradesmen have accounts and only pay for materials 30-60 after they receive them".

Mans an idiot

If I have a new customer I always ask for a deposit ,I'm not making some windows for them that won't fit anywhere else if they don't pay the invoice.

diywhynot

leveller2911 wrote: »

Rent
Electric
heating
business rates
public liability insurance (inside & outside workshop)
contents insurance
van and servicing costs
diesel
van insurance
power tools
machinery & tooling (last purchase was a rip saw £4,000,Four sided moulder £12k)
waste clearance

Theres probably more and will add if I remember..:D

theres is more:
accountants fees
postage
stationary
clothing
footwear
bank charges

Thanks Nickj

Snap (minus WW gear;)) plus GSR, HETAS and OFTEC annual registration fees/associated training costs, MCS certification and associated costs, advertising, FGA servicing, replacement equipment (PF machine, pipe freezing kit, drain clearing kit, inspection camera etc), trade association subscriptions, website hosting, internet, mobile..probably more I've left out......and Green Deal.....Megger/electrical testing equipment.

stevvo

christineperseus wrote: »

Well I paid £50 for having a pressure reducing valve changed.........(I had the valve so wasn't paying any materials)
He wasn't in the house more than 30mins AND he has previously done lots of work for us..........
He's cetainly off our Christmas card list - AND it was CASH..........:mad:

So your implying what here? That your plumber charges £100 per hour? That by buying the materials yourself, you avoided his profit taking on the goods? By paying cash it should have been much cheaper because you avoid paying VAT and he avoids paying tax? (That's why we're in the state we are in).

The plumber had to get to your job in the first place. I'm assuming he doesn't live next door? You're also paying for his expertise. Try getting a solicitor for £50!

When carrying out jobbing or small works, it is difficult to achive a full chargeable 8 hour day, yet the plumber realistically needs to make around £200 -£300 per day.

Costs and charges vary nationally. Up here in the north east, we have a fairly low income scenario, so charges are lower. Expect to pay £30 - £50 per hour for a good tradesman, or around £200 - £250 per day for a quoted job. And please bear in mind, it's not all wages your paying. The van has to be bought, taxed, insured, tools, insurances, training costs, taxes, more taxes etc etc etc. Use a well recommended local tradesman and pay a reasonable price, because this is one area where large nationals do not yet have a stranglehold and if they ever do, prices will only go one way - UP!

As for the customer I quoted here, well I would avoid them like the plague. I'd be better off staying in bed than lifting a tool for this one. :mad:

paye

50 quid is a bargain, we all have to make a living.

wood-is-good

As a long standing self employed tradesman I am aware of the cost of running a business and am willing to pay the going rate. I decided to employ a plumber to install an electric shower. I went to rated .com and duly got myself a plumber who quoted me 200ukp as it was a days work. He turned up to find that I had already bled the system, exposed the pipework so he could get on with the job. he capped the hot water pipe screwed the shower onto a wooden surface, connected it up and fitted the hand rail. I then asked him if he would fit an overflow to my kitchen sink which he did. I supplied all the bits except the cap and overflow. n all it took 2 hours and ten minutes . when I asked him for the bill he said we agreed 200ukp I was gobsmacked as I thought he would have adjusted the bill according to how long it did take ,not so. I could have fitted the shower quicker and done a better job but I thought I would get a proper plumber to do the job. I should have done more leg work but I didn't have the time. I wish I could earn 200ukp per hour. kind Regards
ps sorry for picking up this thread but I feel so stupid for being so trustworthy