Legality of Ryanair's advertising

Marty_J

MrSmartprice wrote: »

I'm afraid it's you that fails to grasp the point. And that is that O'Leary and Ryanair are doing nothing wrong. If you can't get the required card to comply, it's not his fault. (The points you said were irrelevant were replies to another poster. The world doesn't revolve around you!:rolleyes: )

Wow, you really are quite intractable.

Get this: if something is advertised as costing €5 with no extra charges, and it's just not possible to buy it for €5 with no extra charges, then that is false advertising. The idea that someone should have to go to another country and open a bank account there just to get a Visa Electron card is totally ridiculous.

Saying "if you can't get the required card to comply, it's not his fault" shows you have a basic misunderstanding of what is under discussion here. No one is blaming Michael O'Leary for the unavailability of Electron cards in the Republic of Ireland. That fact remains however, that you can't get them there.

They might as well say that flights cost €5 with no hidden charges as long as you pay with pixie dust, pieces of the true cross, or Leprechaun gold. Though no doubt you'd be on here saying that if you can't get any of those things, it's your own fault.

budgetflyer

jammin wrote: »

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It's astonishing, that an Irish company provides for UK residents to use a "no-fee" payment method, but not for Irish residents.

No its not, UK has more customers and is a free'er market to opperate in, so they can make more money - and thats what they are in business for-to make money!
Irelands population is about the same as Greater Manchester, even if everyone in Ireland flew, it would still only be about 5% of their passenger load per year.
Ryanair has done more for Irelands economy than Ireland has done for Ryanair

Anyway, considering the UK has subsidised Ireland through the EU, for many a year, WE are actually paying for YOUR flight, cc +debit card charges included but typically, despite us filling the begging bowl, you still arent happy.

If you are so sure of your argument-take them to court-Im pretty sure there will be an EU rule somewhere for you to exploit.

Marty_J

budgetflyer wrote: »

Anyway, considering the UK has subsidised Ireland through the EU, for many a year, WE are actually paying for YOUR flight, cc +debit card charges included but typically, despite us filling the begging bowl, you still arent happy.

My, after 800 years of subjugating the Irish, that's very kind of you.

You do realise though, that not all of the money in Ireland comes from UK taxpayer's pockets?

MrSmartprice

Marty_J wrote: »

Wow, you really are quite intractable.

Get this: if something is advertised as costing €5 with no extra charges, and it's just not possible to buy it for €5 with no extra charges, then that is false advertising. The idea that someone should have to go to another country and open a bank account there just to get a Visa Electron card is totally ridiculous.

Saying "if you can't get the required card to comply, it's not his fault" shows you have a basic misunderstanding of what is under discussion here. No one is blaming Michael O'Leary for the unavailability of Electron cards in the Republic of Ireland. That fact remains however, that you can't get them there.

They might as well say that flights cost €5 with no hidden charges as long as you pay with pixie dust, pieces of the true cross, or Leprechaun gold. Though no doubt you'd be on here saying that if you can't get any of those things, it's your own fault.

My point was that the flights were advertised in £s, not euros. You are in the UK where we use £s, so you can presumably get an Electron card. I am assuming they do have proper banks in Ulster. So the bottom line is that Ryanair are not breaking UK law, since what they advertise is available. As my former profession was enforcing such laws, be assured I am right here.:cool:

As for the other facetious fool, he is in a foreign country, so I neither know nor care what the laws are there. He clearly has a problem, and if I were as ignorant as him I would presume he is something with the initials B.T. Easier to put them on ignore!

chuckley

jammin wrote: »

If you're going to come on and try to make sarcastic jokes, at least keep it in context.

A sandwich is a good that you can choose to buy or not, and Ryanair produces / buys them for a price and sells them at a profit.

The credit/debit card fee is not a good, and (in many cases), there is no choice but to pay it. The credit/debit card fee is also totally inflated compared with what Ryanair are actually charged by the banks for processing such payment. It's nothing more than stealth tax and I'm sure most people know that.

My argument is that Ryanair advertising "No other taxes, fees or charges" is inaccurate, since most people will have to pay a credit/debit charge fee.

I will point out again that not a single Irish bank issues Visa Electron cards to it's customers, so payment by this method is not even an option for Irish residents.

FALSE. some people CHOOSE to pay bt CC and or debit and those with electron do just that.

they are not falsely advertising when thousands get flights for 1p!!!!

every 'offer' has conditions! regardless who is advertising it.

Marty_J

MrSmartprice wrote: »

My point was that the flights were advertised in £s, not euros. You are in the UK where we use £s, so you can presumably get an Electron card. I am assuming they do have proper banks in Ulster. So the bottom line is that Ryanair are not breaking UK law, since what they advertise is available. As my former profession was enforcing such laws, be assured I am right here.:cool:

As for the other facetious fool, he is in a foreign country, so I neither know nor care what the laws are there. He clearly has a problem, and if I were as ignorant as him I would presume he is something with the initials B.T. Easier to put them on ignore!

But the OP is in Ireland, where the flights are advertised in Euros. They advertise them for €5 with no hidden costs or charges (go to ryanair.ie and change your location to Ireland and you'll see for yourself). The only way you can book them without incurring an additional fee is with a Visa Electron. These aren't available in Ireland. So, ipso facto, their advertisement that there are no hidden fees is untrue.

He's not saying they are breaking any UK laws, nor is he saying the UK advertisement isn't true in Ireland; he's saying the Irish one isn't. He's not asking for you to present a petition to the UK government on his behalf, or to march on Whitehall. He only wanted to know if their advertising is acceptable. As it's patently untrue, it's not. So, he should report them to the Advertising Standards Authority for Ireland.

I really don't see what the big deal is.

Marty_J

chuckley wrote: »

FALSE. some people CHOOSE to pay bt CC and or debit and those with electron do just that.

they are not falsely advertising when thousands get flights for 1p!!!!

every 'offer' has conditions! regardless who is advertising it.

Something rendering the offer impossible to accept is not a "condition".

MrSmartprice

Marty_J wrote: »

I really don't see what the big deal is.

It's no big deal at all if it's only Ireland. Who cares?

But he never mentioned that rather relevant point originally. And this is a UK-based site. Meanwhile, he can continue to subsidise my holidays.:rotfl:

Marty_J

MrSmartprice wrote: »

It's no big deal at all if it's only Ireland. Who cares?

But he never mentioned that rather relevant point originally. And this is a UK-based site. Meanwhile, he can continue to subsidise my holidays.:rotfl:

Well, I guess some people care. I don't think there's anything in the rules about posts having to relate to specific UK-only topics, and I'd like to think Irish people are as welcome here as anyone else.

jamescredmond

Marty_J wrote: »

Well, I guess some people care. I don't think there's anything in the rules about posts having to relate to specific UK-only topics, and I'd like to think Irish people are as welcome here as anyone else.

they are, as far as I'm concerned.