Totally new to this!

Mrs_pbradley936

I need some help with this topic. My son's girlfriend is soon to deliver a baby. They do not live together but he will pay child support. She has a child from a previous relationship and I have no idea what arrangements are in place for that child and I don't feel like asking as I don't want to be a busybody. I do know that she is a tenant not a home owner.

Will my son be able to claim tax credits for his child? Will I be able to buy things/support my grandchild without the mother being penalised? I mean if I buy the child clothing, shoes and toys will I be expected to forever? Will my contributions become legally binding and make the mother forgo any state help she is entitled to?

Thank you.

bonnie_2

The mother claims tax credits, not the father.

mcnolegs

Whoever is looking after the child claims tax credits so it would be your son's gf. Tax credits looks purely at her taxable income so anything you or your son contribute wouldn't affect her entitlement to tax credits though I'm not sure about any other benefits

Conor_3

Why don't they move in together? After all, he's still with her and he fathered the child or is this yet another person looking for a way to get us to pay for his kid? Quite good for them really...we get to pay for the upkeep of his kid and he only has to pay a miniscule amount and nothing like the true cost so he can still go boozing with his mates on a Saturday night and live the life of Riley..

Mrs_pbradley936

Conor wrote: »

Why don't they move in together? After all, he's still with her and he fathered the child or is this yet another person looking for a way to get us to pay for his kid? Quite good for them really...we get to pay for the upkeep of his kid and he only has to pay a miniscule amount and nothing like the true cost so he can still go boozing with his mates on a Saturday night and live the life of Riley..

You must have missed the opening few words when I said that I was new to all this. You also missed the bit about my son paying child support. How dare you comment on this when you know nothing about it? If you cannot make a worthwhile contribution then say nothing and read only. You are lucky that I am not reporting you to the abuse team. The only reason I am not is because I want people to see what sort of person you are. You are the type that would send little boys up chimneys.

Conor_3

Report me - just shows you don't think a lot about free speech as well as condoning fiddling the dole. I'm not the type that would send kids up chimneys at all but what I am, like many people, is sick of people fiddling the system which is what your son and his girlfriend are basically trying to do through the back door. The conversation would have gone along the lines of "but if I move in you'll lose your dole money" whilst the thought "that'd mean I'd have to use my money to pay for the rent and bills instead of on myself" was going through his mind.

Yes he's paying child support which legally is under 20% of his net income. I doubt he's paying anywhere near the costs of running the household is he? So instead of him paying the rent and bills for his "family", we will be. We'll end up being the ones funding her flat, kids, Sky TV, cigs, booze, food, gas and electric when it should bloody well be your son doing it.


IT WAS INTERESTING TO NOTE THAT YOU DIDN'T WANT HER STATE BENEFITS TO BE AFFECTED. Speaks volumes....

And if you don't want people to comment on it, don't post about it in a public forum.

wifeforlife

Conor wrote: »

Why don't they move in together? After all, he's still with her and he fathered the child or is this yet another person looking for a way to get us to pay for his kid? Quite good for them really...we get to pay for the upkeep of his kid and he only has to pay a miniscule amount and nothing like the true cost so he can still go boozing with his mates on a Saturday night and live the life of Riley..

It's none of your business why they dont move in together!

If you cant answer the question, butt out and say nothing at all :mad:


Forum Etiquette Pls be nice to all MoneySavers. There's no such thing as a stupid question, and even if you disagree courtesy helps.

OP if you buy your Grandchild presents or clothing, it will not affect your sons girlfriend tax credits, also your son does not claim the tax credits unless they are living as a couple

Cate

Quasar

I don't think the OP wants information on how to fiddle the system - she just wants information on what legal rights and entitlements there are. I know Mrspbradley rather well from DT and I certainly can't imagine her as a benefit fiddler.

Also, all those assumptions about cigs, booze, Sky TV and everything else, seem totally uncalled for and just show that some users will seize on any opportunity to rant about their pet hates without bothering to think rationally and read the OPs properly. Nothing new there eh?

Now I await the fallout...

Mrs_pbradley936

Conor wrote: »

Report me - just shows you don't think a lot about free speech as well as condoning fiddling the dole. I'm not the type that would send kids up chimneys at all but what I am, like many people, is sick of people fiddling the system which is what your son and his girlfriend are basically trying to do through the back door. The conversation would have gone along the lines of "but if I move in you'll lose your dole money" whilst the thought "that'd mean I'd have to use my money to pay for the rent and bills instead of on myself" was going through his mind.

Yes he's paying child support which legally is under 20% of his net income. I doubt he's paying anywhere near the costs of running the household is he? So instead of him paying the rent and bills for his "family", we will be. We'll end up being the ones funding her flat, kids, Sky TV, cigs, booze, food, gas and electric when it should bloody well be your son doing it.


IT WAS INTERESTING TO NOTE THAT YOU DIDN'T WANT HER STATE BENEFITS TO BE AFFECTED. Speaks volumes....

And if you don't want people to comment on it, don't post about it in a public forum.

This is not a free speech forum. Moreover this section of the forum is aimed at people seeking advice about entitlements. If the mother of my grandchild is deemed to be entitled to help/support/finance/childcare or whatever else who are you to say that she is fiddling? You may not agree with it but your agreement/consent is not a requirement. There are numerous things I disagree with my taxes being spent on but I do not get to veto those I disapprove of. Neither do you.

Mips

I see you are at the fiddling again Mrspbradley... tut tut... you shameless dole scrounger you...

Mrs_pbradley936

Dippychick wrote: »

I see you are at the fiddling again Mrspbradley... tut tut... you shameless dole scrounger you...

I know - I could care less about this person but someone sensitive may be upset by such an attitude and put off posting or seeking help they are quite entitled to. That is the only reason I dignified the comments with a response.