Governement looking after the `poorer`

alleycat`

I was going to say the same thing as BL but didn't see the point.

There are two pubs opposite my office and both have queues at 9am waiting for them to open...

I'm sure they just go there all summer and winter to keep warm :rotfl:

petshopgirlemma

It's very difficult if you live in rented property to convince your landlord to invest in making your home more energy efficient. Gordon brown has introduced measures which benefit homeowners but not those without any hope of owning thier own home - what about those of us who pay out more each month in rent than mortgage payers do? We'll put that £60 he's letting us have back this month towards the next bill eh?

Rikki

Haven't www.warmfront.co.uk been providing this for low income families and pensioners for many years?

To me this is nothing new the government is just re branding it under another name and making a few more people eligible.

JohnnyM_2

DGJsaver wrote: »

Thats the point
wheres the help for those in the middle ?
not rich and not `poor`
There isnt any , and thats where the government of the day is supposed to step in with tighter regulation and the like

There is never any help for the 'average' person. We are just here to fund all the people in this country on benefits. In my business I see countless people on benefits who get £1000's of handouts and put nothing back in to society and never ever will. There is no incentive for these people to get work because the handouts are incredibly high. This is just another handout encouraging them to remain on benefits.

1carminestocky

What gets me about the 'energy companies make relatively little profit' mantra is.....why don't they just get out of the industry? Sell the utility side of their business? Same question must go to the oil companies who whine on about their HUGE profits not being attributable to selling petrol on the forecourt.

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No help for us either it seems - 2 adults, 2 children under 5yrs and only an income of £11k.

Sometimes we think we would be better off unemployed...

bristolleedsfan

Rikki wrote: »

Haven't www.warmfront.co.uk been providing this for low income families and pensioners for many years?

To me this is nothing new the government is just re branding it under another name and making a few more people eligible.

Government is putting more money into warmfront after previously cutting money from its budget. ( Its called take with one hand and give with another. )

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2817157.stm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1423677/Poor-hit-as-40,000-heating-grants-cut.html

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/uk/Brown-to-announce-1bn-of.4479967.jp

http://www.theyworkforyou.com/whall/?id=2008-06-25a.135.0 ( 25th June 2008)

"Why have the Government reduced Warm Front's budget for the next three years when they will almost certainly fail to meet their legally binding fuel poverty targets of 2001? The reduction amounts to £50 million this year alone, and to set the budget cut in context, the Government receive £400 million a year from VAT paid by domestic energy consumers."

gemmalouanna

JohnnyM wrote: »

There is never any help for the 'average' person. We are just here to fund all the people in this country on benefits. In my business I see countless people on benefits who get £1000's of handouts and put nothing back in to society and never ever will. There is no incentive for these people to get work because the handouts are incredibly high. This is just another handout encouraging them to remain on benefits.

Have to agree with you...so annoying for the people who manage to get along but don't just have the spare cash to get the insulation done!

Dreamnine

IF you own your own property, you MAY qualify for some of the cost of insulation, but why bother, anyway..? If you save 20%, the utility companies will just put up their prices again. Pointless government exercise from a pointless government. Gordon 'I'm just here to do what the public wants me to' Brown. Ar5ehole.

Cardew

1carminestocky wrote: »

What gets me about the 'energy companies make relatively little profit' mantra is.....why don't they just get out of the industry? Sell the utility side of their business? Same question must go to the oil companies who whine on about their HUGE profits not being attributable to selling petrol on the forecourt.

20 million customers each providing £30 profit per year is still a lucrative business. Energy companies are going to make money regardless of the economic situation in the country.

One of the(few) things we seem to agree on is that the industry should never have been privatised.

The point is the £30 pa profit per customer is not the reason for high bills. Stop them making any profit and our £1,000+ bills pa will hardly notice.

Despite this the media, TUC, MSE etc etc all concentrate on the 'greedy' utility companies.